View Poll Results: If an art has any sub-optimal components is that art bullshido?
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Teachers should warn students of the lack of depth in the specific area.
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Posted On:
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Another thread?
No it doesn't. Claiming that your art includes something it doesn't is bullshido.
If you art doesn't have striking or grappling, is it advisable to supplement and become well rounded. Yes.
As I said on your other thread. Most modern MA (Judo/BJJ/Karate/TKD) doesn't include using weapons. Does that make them all Bullshido? No.
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It would only be Bullshido if, within the art's training, there is no way to objectively validate and crosscheck the sub-optimal components to surpass the depth of knowledge the teacher is attempting to convey. Although cross-training may be one way to do this, it is not the only way.
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Originally Posted by Anthony
Ask Rorian what the other way might be regarding BJJ, not me. :smile:
Perhaps it is a matter of semantics. An art which recognizes its incompleteness makes it more complete. Or, maybe that's zen. LOL.
Anyway, I personally see a distinct difference between cross-checking (or cross-testing) and cross-training. That's a philosophical discussion for another thread and another day, though.
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The only problem with Kyokushin as i see it is that we're taught to do these silly hand grabs.There's only 2 reasons around the world students are taught these.At best it shows karate as teaching it's students that they do have other options besides smahing their fist into the other guy's mouth.At worst it basic Aikido.
IE.If I'm standing in a bar having a drink, no one is gonna walk right up to me grab my right hand with his right then I can get him into a wristlock.It works but it so unrealistic to it will never happen to me in my life time.
When I think of all the things we could learn.
Well anyway my point is that wristlocks are lame.But does it make the art bullshido?No.Just the stupid wristlocks stuff we have to learn.[img=http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2364/8026700123940loij9.th.jpg]
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none of the styles I do have anything suboptimal about them, so I vote bullshido on all that other bullshit.
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If an art has any sub-optimal components is that art bullshido?