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  1. PirateJon is offline
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    BJJ/Judo Teach Sub-Optimal Striking. Bullshido arts or not?

    Both judo and bjj teach a form of striking which is very limited compared to MT/Boxing/krotty.

    Does this make those arts bullshido? If not, why not?
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    By that same logic Boxing is Bullshido because it doesn't teach grappling.

    Bullshido is making false claims of effectiveness. If a BJJ instructor said that BJJ is the best striking art, that would be Bullshido. But BJJ isn't bullshido becuase it doesn't include an array of strikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PirateJon
    Both judo and bjj teach a form of striking which is very limited compared to MT/Boxing/krotty.

    Does this make those arts bullshido? If not, why not?
    I don't know, I'd put money on a BJJ striking arsenal against a krotty striking arsenal anyday. It's hard to do a spinning reverse knife fist strike from the bottom of the mount.
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    BBC members: http://www.bullshido.net/forums/show...396#post871396

    Read through the last few pages of that to get a context of what PirateJon is talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkpaladin
    I don't know, I'd put money on a BJJ striking arsenal against a krotty striking arsenal anyday. It's hard to do a spinning reverse knife fist strike from the bottom of the mount.
    Ok (same logic) so its bullshido cause it doesn't include weapons.

    Because as art doesn't include something doesn't make it bullshido, making false claims does.

    God fucking damn.
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    Why didn't you make a poll!?

    So, to answer the question.

    It isn't Bullshido, because it's not crap.

    If you had experience with it, it would be worth giving you a more detailed answer, but seeing as you don't know what you're talking about and insist on asserting illogical poo, you get a stupid answer to your stupid question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I Choke You
    Why didn't you make a poll!?

    So, to answer the question.

    It isn't Bullshido, because it's not crap.

    If you had experience with it, it would be worth giving you a more detailed answer, but seeing as you don't know what you're talking about and insist on asserting illogical poo, you get a stupid answer to your stupid question.
    **** I didn't even know I made two threads.

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    From now on, Muay Thai will be known as 'Gracie Boxing', a wholly owned subsidiary of BJJ.
    Mauro: Coming into the ring now is Giant Silva. 7 foot 2, 385 lbs, making his debut in Pride.
    Bas: Wow, that is one big guy!
    Mauro: He must have an enormous Johnson!
    Bas: Ur…I suppose.
    Mauro: What are his keys to victory here in the Pride ring tonight?
    Bas: Well I think he needs to use his reach, avoid Heaths takedowns, and try to use his size to overpower him.
    Mauro: I mean, imagine the size of that thing!
    Bas: Now Heath is coming into the ring…
    Mauro: Do women really like them that big? Doesn’t it hurt?
    Bas: I really wouldn’t know.
    Mauro: I’m starting to feel a little insecure.
    Bas: Let’s just talk about the fight.
    Mauro: You’re right, el Basito. What are Heaths keys to winning here tonight. What does he have to do? What are his strategies for emerging victorious here in the Saitama Super Arena tonight?
    Bas: Well, the first thing…
    Mauro: My wife says she doesn’t like them too big, that it’s all about how you use it.
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    Oh please.

    Grappling arts like Judo,BJJ,wrestling,sambo etc are just that. Grappling arts. Their fantastic at what they do and their purpose is not really to make their students hardcore strikers. Learn grappling from the grapplers, learn striking from the strikers.

    As for calling bullshit on bjj or judo, that is nonsense. Both arts have been tried and tested in full contact tournements and have a solid track record for turning out good fighters.
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