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    Hmb?

    Does anyone here use HMB (Beta-hydroxy beta-methylbutyrate) supplements? Some people I know swear by them as a great way to boost you endurance by preventing muscle breakdown. Anyone here get good results from them?
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    Thanks, I'll look for more articles like these, cheers.
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    They still make this stuff?
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    Aparently it was first given to AIDS sufferers to help prevent their muscles from breaking down.
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    By the power of Greyskull, I resurrect this thread.

    anyway, I received a Muscle and Fitness or some such magazine as a present, and while it is 70% adverts, they did have some decent beginning lifting and nutrition advice. They did advocate HMB and Creatine as supplements, and a fatburner to get lean.

    I won't go near fatburners, and I've used creatine successfully, even if it was placebo, but I've never tried HMB.

    Two out of three links above seem to say HMB is not effective, where as the last one seems to put a positive spin, but saying the mechanism for delaying the onset of lactate buildup was unknown.

    Does anyone here have any empirical or anecdotal personal experience with HMB?

    Thread needs braaaaaaaaaaiiinnsss.
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    edit: +1 virtual rep to isol8d for using a He-Man reference.
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    When I studied Strength and Conditioning we were taken through the various suppliments on the market and they were divided into the catagories of emprically supported, mixed results and don't do ****. HMB was in the mixed results catagory, I don't know what further reaserch has been done since then.

    FYI creatine and caffiene are the only ones that currently enjoy a high degree of empirical support. Everything else is waste of money. Suppliments don't have the same stringent requirements that pharmaceuticals do, and this is primarily the reason for such a high signal to noise ratio.

    I've just looked through pubmed for studies on HMB and it indeed has mixed results, with most of the positives coming from studies done on non-resistance trained individuals. There's currently not enough data to warrant its use, although many people will "take it anyway in case it does."
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    I used HMB for a while. Didn't seem to do anything for me. Creatine and vitamins are the way to go. Everything else is smoke and mirrors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by odacon
    Aparently it was first given to AIDS sufferers to help prevent their muscles from breaking down.
    Ayup. Rather than toss down 20mg or more of oxandrolone a day (free of charge courtesy of generous benevolence programs and/or comprehensive insurance) to ameliorate wasting and pack on guaranteed lean mass, the ABSOLUTE BEST treatment protocols for AIDS always involve a quick trip down to GNC for some OTC crap that's phenominally expensive and doesn't even provide a placebo effect.

    Oh,wait...
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    Dave

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    That is exactly what I meant sdave. You are dead on, as usual.

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