Plus, to think of it, I'm not sure how well this counter would work against seoi-nage, or koshi-guruma. I don't think it would work at all with soto makikomi. BTW, Cadmus, check the soto makikomi clip - it is a sweet throw.
Originally Posted by Ronin.74
Also, check out http://www.judoinfo.com - the site is really good with lots of diagrams and clips. It will give you a good idea of what the throws and counters are like. Mind you, the clips are non-compliant, but they are shown from a pretty static position (but the site has also clips of actual tourneys.)
I think I'm going to create a thread asking the in-house judoka about this counter with its pros and cons. Doing it to Aikido-boy was a sweet moment, but I can't say I learned anything other than he sucked more than a vacuum cleaner or Windows 98.
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Your right elynka, it will only work against your basic hip throw.
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