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  1. Tom Kagan is offline
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    Dark Overlord of the Bullshido Underworld

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    2/06/2006 12:16pm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enech
    ALL opinions are equally valid, otherwise one has a closed mind, and little to live for.
    Really? Then my opinion is that every opinion is not equally valid and you are absolutely in error.

    Don't drag out a 2,000 year old sophist argument without expecting someone else to drag out a 2,000 year old rebuttal to call you on it.


    I like to keep an open mind, but not so open my brain falls out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enech
    Yes a Nerve cluster, and SOME people with a preexisting heart arythmia (sp) can possbily die! (I have a PhD, with some anatomy papers)
    Not a nerve cluster - a baroreceptor (stretch receptor) in the carotid sinus.

    Arrhythmia. If you're going to claim a PhD, learn to spell, online.

    I'm not buying the baroreflex/arrhythmia link - got some citations? Instead, I find reports that suggest carotid stimulation may be used to restore rhythm. See
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...t_uids=9024912
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...t_uids=9437338
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...t_uids=9633079

    What kind of arrhythmias are you referring to?
  3. Tom Kagan is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enech
    Yes a Nerve cluster, and SOME people with a preexisting heart arythmia (sp) can possbily die! (I have a PhD, with some anatomy papers)

    5.30% of the population have a heart arrhythmia.

    Do you think George Dillman has better odds in randomly finding someone he could kill with his no-touch methods?
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    Quote Originally Posted by I Choke You
    To be fair, you could get a "mini-torch" type that's windproof and make the guy choking you mad enough that he chokes you to death instead of just unconcious...
    I bought one of those and it ran out of fuel in less time than it takes to choke a man.
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    But...they're refillable!
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    And you can barbecue his arm before you pass out (with a full lighter at least) I assure you, you will probably set yourself on fire while doing it though.

    What is really comic is the fact that they drill a situation in wich you have a massive advantage on your enemy (carrying a 1 foot knife, the enemy doesnt know you have, at grappling range) and they are able to screw it up by insted of stabing the guys face or gut, trying to cut his arm in the direction of your own throat.
    This my frieds is stupid...
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