Posted On:1/29/2006 3:22am
Style: TKD, MT
This is the association in which I train under, I feel that each dojo under this association may have differences in the way they train but I think that the association in itself is bullshido. I only have experiences of one dojo from this association, and this is the one in which I train.
It isnt the biggest club and we have far to many kids training for me to take it seriously more lessons than not . We kick and punch the air quite alot, and we occassionally use pads. We do semi contact sparring but, that has only just been introduced, it has been non contact sparring for a long time. I pay $55 a month for as many lessons as I want or it is $10 dollars per lesson.
Most of the people from other clubs I see at grading are about as useless as most people at my dojo. I think we grade with about 3 other clubs in the Queensland area. When we grade I must pay a $60 grading fee and $10 for the belt.
Im quite convinced that these clubs are Bullshido from what I have gathered from my experiences. I have been training for a little over a year and finally made the move to train in Muay Thai.
If it where not for this web sites annoyingly over analytical and critising nature then I would probably be still training in a dojo thinking I would one day be able to kick ass like Jackie Chan. So thank you
Please give me your thoughts on the web site and anyhting about the association, and if anyone else trains under walsh taekwondo I would much appreciate to hear from you.
Posted On:1/29/2006 5:02am
Style: HSR, Judo
Well, let's evaluate what he says:
Tae Kwon Do is a powerful self-defence art that was founded in Korea more than 2000 years ago.
I know martial artists don't have to be mathematicians, but being off by one thousand, nine hunded and fifty years is pretty severe. :P
The essential meaning expressed by the Chinese character [道] is that of 'art' or 'philosophical way leading righteously forward'.
I can't speak for his knowledge of Korean, but he's got no clue about kanji. The literal meaning of the kanji 道 "michi" is "road," "way," or (depending on context) "teachings" or "morals" (in the sense of "going the right way" or "following a certain path"). There is NO meaning of "art" in the character in any way, shape, or form. He's just blowing smoke, at least as far as the Japanese interpretation goes. I doubt the Chinese version is much different, but I'll leave that to the CMA folks.
From his original school in Balmain, he introduced the superior fighting method of the Korean martial arts to many now-prominent masters of Japanese Karate and Chinese Kung Fu.
This one is just for kicks. I find his words beautifully ironic. :P
Anyway, if he was actually a judo champion and underwent everything he claims to, chances are he himself isn't a half-bad fighter. He also seems to make fewer spurious claims than the average McDojo, and claims that he's against commercialism in martial art. The prices don't seem too awful at all, but then again, that's my perspective from prices in the States and Japan.
However, you say there are a ton of kids and y'all don't spar. That's no good. The website also features way too many jumping kicks, and the self-defense techniques shown are a bit iffy (especially the jab/wristlock one).
So there you have it. I'd move to Muay Thai as well, but I have bias against TKD. :P
Posted On:1/29/2006 5:28am
i have a WTF 1st dan BB myself. your TKD school seems pretty typical... not that bad, very well organised and seems to have good intentions. but if you would like to develop as a fighter, move on. they will not teach you how to fight. it looks like you have realised this yourself. you don't have to be ashamed and feel like a fool who has wasted all your time and money.
... i was just checking out their website. it looks like your instructor has the same rank as me!
Kelvin Grove STATE COLLEGE, Brisbane
Performing Arts Centre
Victoria Park Road, Brisbane
Mondays and Thursdays at 6pm till 7pm.
Instructor: Andrew Hooley, 1st Dan Black Belt
has he ever fought in competition?
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Posted On:1/30/2006 4:13am
Well put the school is Ok but if i need to develop as a fighter I never will there. Also that is a different instructor that you have posted he often turns up to classes with us though and no he doesn't compete and I have to say he is the biggest sissy I know, he over exaggerates his moves and looks like a retard when he does his techniques. I train at :
STAY 'N' SHAPE FITNESS CENTRE, ORMEAU
Corner of Vaughn Drive and Peachey Road, Ormeau
General classes on Tuesdays and Thursdays at 4:00pm till 5.30pm and Saturdays at 9.00am till 10.00am
Adult and senior student classes on Tuesdays and Thursdays at 7.30pm till 8.30pm
Instructor: Peter Thomson, 2nd Dan Black Belt
Phone: (07) 5547 6200
Fax: (07) 5547 6080
Mobile: 0412 822 007
its a good location because I often dont have too pay for the gym.
Posted On:1/30/2006 5:16am
after doing TKD for 5 years i actually didn't find it too hard to make the transition. i seemed to be able to pick things up quicker than most other people. there are actually quite a lot of similarities between TKD and MT... but the differences are astoundingly important.
good on you for having the heart to make the change.
Posted On:2/01/2006 12:59am
Style: Judo, TKD
I know Peter Thomson and the Stay in Shape Fitness Centre. Peter seems like a nice enough guy, my understanding is that he is not a professional franchise type instructor - he does it in his spare time - so we can assume he does it for the love of it, not the $
Walsh TKD Australia are quite large, with little franchise dojang all over south east qld and northern nsw - I think there are 12 in total.
Bottom line though, I don't think the stuff that you described is any better or worse than 90% of WTF clubs out there, so it sounds like you just don't like the current training methods of WTF. MT or Kyokushin will treat you well
Posted On:2/01/2006 7:23am
Peter Thomson is a great guy and the Dojo I go to is ok but your right, I dont like the training methods that much. I dont want to spread bad word about our gym but I think the fact that we have to pay $60 to the grandmaster everytime we grade is a little bullshido. I think Peter does do it out of the kindness of his heart butI would like to know where my $55 a month is going too, I have just been in NZ for a month and been doing TKD there and havent had to pay a thing for the entire month. I think the whole massive Walsh Taekwondo federation is getting abit commercialised though. You should drop in sometime for a lesson, I think I might stick around in that Dojo unitl I get my black belt. There is only like 6 people in our class so I wont be hard to spot, I about a metre taller than everyone else. Lol im not tall just everyone else is short.
Posted On:2/01/2006 10:11pm
Thanks for the invite, but I've had my fill of WTF up at a dojang in brisbane. Switched to Judo recently.
On a different note, chances are the equip (if any) that you guys use comes from me.
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