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  1. MadeOfOlives is offline

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    Ah, but perhaps encouraging the slap helps to discourage the arm reach.
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    Sorry about the lack of images. I have considered that the slap could discourage putting the arm out. It would be great to conduct a scientific study into slap vs no slap.
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    I have two explantions, they may either be both correct, incorrect, or what have you. I can't concretely confirm these due to lack of experimental evidence.

    By slapping the ground at the time of impact, you provide a counter force in the opposite direction in which the ground (lava, etc.) acts on your body. This causes a reduction in the net force (Fnet = Fground - Fslap).

    As well, the slap increases the total surface which hits the ground. The force, therefore, is spread over a larger area, which decreases the damage of the force at any one point (Pascal's Law?). In other words, you get done hurt less.

    Physics majors help me out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by odacon
    There are times when it comes in handy, I was watching a Judo comp recently and a guy stuck his arms out and nearly broke one instead of break-falling.

    I suppose he could have fucked up, but he was probably attempting a turnout to avoid Ippon. A turnout has nothing to do with Ukemi.
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    Posted On:
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     Style: Judo

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadeOfOlives
    Ah, but perhaps encouraging the slap helps to discourage the arm reach.
    This is what I kind of think. If you are slapping you are not “posting.”
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    In my school they teach us to slap and kick our feet out on the point of impact.
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    Posted On:
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    Slapping the ground is for pussies! I like to headbutt the ground myself. It works even better with molten lava and police spike strips. If I'm not in position for a headbutt then I like to hyperextend my joints and give a loud KIAAA!

    In all seriousness though, tuck your chin and forget the slap. Unless your Steven Cigar...
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    Supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without spilling your Guinness.
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    As a BMX'er, I've been launched and did a breakfall which saved my ass. Lost a bit of flesh off the ol' elbow, but it grew back.

    If I tried to catch or 'slap' the ground to break my fall, at that speed with the momentum i had, i'd have had two seriously messed up wrists.
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    I do not slap with my breakfalls, and I do on ocassion practice them on concrete. Slapping only slows me down in rolling through and getting back up.

    Slapping is for girls.
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    The slap also makes a loud noise, which I'm guessing in Judo or sport JJ is meant to impress the judges. Also, watch pro wrasslin' sometime, when they do a backfall or something similar, they smack their arms and make a tremendous amount of noise so the marks in the cheap theats up in nosebleed country can hear it. It's also a bigger movement, so they can see it better.
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