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  1. taijiguy is offline

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    Posted On:
    1/21/2006 10:54pm

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    Shaolin temple in georgia? / ironpalmarts.com

    Anyone ever heard of these guys? ironpalmarts owner is a 22 year old "master" named Chase Benefield. They are spamming several forums claiming to be taught by monks at a shaolin temple in Ga...they have given this address as their location "70 Sycamore Street Vanwert Georgia " i wasnt sure of the policy of posting links to other forums but pm me or post here and let me know and i can provide more info...or go into ironpalmarts forums on this link and read about how taking showers makes you resist broken bones, cuts and bruises!!

    http://www.ironpalmarts.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=55

    http://www.ironpalmarts.com/

    you guys seemed to be just the right people to point this out to, they are issueing challenges to fight at that address...which seems fake...
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    Posted On:
    1/21/2006 11:22pm

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    Never hear of them.

    I read that iron body in the shower thing.
    Reads like a joke to me. Is that a joke site or what?
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  3. taijiguy is offline

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    1/21/2006 11:31pm

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    NO no joke!! they are also posting those bogus exercises on forums for people to try. all the while trying to sell the dit da jow by claiming to be taught by shaolin monks. The training they are advocating is dangerous!! and its all marketing to sell their wares to those who believe this crap, trouble is this will cripple anyone who follows the iron palm exercises the 22 year old admitts he made up!. That was just his secret ironbody in the shower phase! Its truly the worst case of selling fantasy to young martial artist i have ever seen. Click on the second link to buy his products.

    how do you get this idiot to stop this?
  4. Mor Sao is offline
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    Posted On:
    1/22/2006 8:45am

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    He seems to be an idiot. Let him be as he has no clue. You see how "old" the master is. No training at a masters degree level of Chinese medicine. He seems to be another "master" without the credentials. but that is only MHO.







  5. JFS USA is offline

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    Posted On:
    1/22/2006 8:57am

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    Quote Originally Posted by taijiguy
    how do you get this idiot to stop this?
    Hmmm ... invite the "master" and his peeps to attend a Throwdown ... might want to phrase so he's invited to do a "demo" of his kung fu as he's probably "too deadly" to actually spar.

    Video tape everything, put it up on Bullshido, let the laughter begin ...
  6. Gezere is offline
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    Shaolin Monks?

    In a temple in GA?

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     Style:  fc karate, wrestling,

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    I smell a throw down
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    Posted On:
    1/22/2006 9:25pm

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    I have a bit of experience with the iron palm. The art is authentic but finding a true teacher is nothing short of one big sharp pain in the ass. This guy looks like a fraud, and i've never heard of him.(I have seen his products over ebay though). Here are some basic facts about dit da jow, you all should be aware of. Its a very effective training aid, it will prevent brusing and heal brusing and various other injuries. IT is almost ALWAYS poisonous if taken interally(swallowed, or licked, or got into an open cut). He also doesnt do a good job of specifying the herbs he uses in making it. Some herbs are fine by themselves, but pose a danger when mixed with others. Others can never be taken by those who are pregnant, have high blood pressure, or fall under a plethora of other medical problems. While we're on the subject of frauds, check out www.ironpalm.com . Lacy Clay seems like a fraud and a charlatan to me.
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    Posted On:
    1/22/2006 9:56pm


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    I got an "Invalid Address" checking it on Google & USPS.com . There are a lot of streets named Van Wert out in NW Ga... not far from ATL.
  10. taijiguy is offline

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    1/23/2006 3:04am

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    oh its an invalid address alright things have EXPLODED at defend.net

    Satellite photos and all.

    The thread title is" punching and slapping power". At this point they have resorted to posting apparently phony emails. its a circus to end all circus acts!!
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    1/23/2006 4:36am


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    I found this seller on ebay over a year ago and although I know he can't be a master at 22 years of age, which I seriously doubt he ever claimed in the first place, I did have a positive purchasing experience and have been dealing with him since then. I did a search on the defend.net forum you speak of but cannot find anything when searching for iron palm arts except normal discussions of iron palm training. i do see thousands of people selling dit da jows on the internet, so what seems to make iron palm arts dangerous but the others safe? i use the jows but have considered them high quality because i have purchased from another place and did not like the quality.
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    Posted On:
    1/23/2006 4:39am

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    Out of curiosity, what's dit da jow in characters?
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    Posted On:
    1/23/2006 8:35am

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    跌打酒







    This is the lay term for dit da jow. Many MAer's use Tieh Ta Jiu/Tit Da Jow meaning Iron Strike Alcohol for Iron Palm medicine Those characters are:



    铁打酒








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    Posted On:
    1/23/2006 2:21pm

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    Unusual Iron Body Training Exercise 1
    Here Is A Way Of Iron Body Training I Made Up That May Seem Funny But, I Assure You Any Exercise I Post Will Benefit Your Training And Give You An Extra Edge On You Oppenent(s) And The Competition. Also If It's Something I Made Up It Will Not Be Something That I Made Up Two Day Ago. I Will Have Spend Days After Nights And At Least A Year Training To Assure Myself It Is Effective Enough To Even Tell Someone About Or Post It On The Internet. Actions Are Much Louder Than Words. The Pressure From The Water Is Like Someone Lightly Punching You After Doing This For A Year Your Skin Will Have Create A Tolerance To Light And Medium Hits. The Body Is An Amazing Work Of Art And Will Adapt To Its Surroundings. With This Exercise I Have Tapped Into This Amazing Strength. I Recommend Each Person That Reads This Exercise To Have An Open Mind Before Judging It And Try This Amazing Yet Unusual Exercise.


    First Off You Need To Purchase A Massaging Shower Head. Install Your New Shower Head And Prepare To Be Amazed. Start Off Doing This Exercise Three Times A Week.

    Iron Body Shower Massage Exercise

    Part 1

    Rinse Your Body With Water Making It Slick And Turn The Water Off. After You Have Done This Rub Up And Down 15 Reps Both Ways. Up Would Be One Rep And Back Down Would Be One Rep. Do This To Your Arms, Shoulders, Abs Break Into Three Sections, Chest, Sides, Rib Cage, Entire Legs Break It Into Two Sections, Kidneys, Back Of The Head, Around The Front And Sides Of The Neck, Whole Right Side Of The Face Break Into Three Sections And Whole Left Side Of Face Break It Into Three Sections.

    After You Have Complete Part 1 Move Onto Part 2
    Um, so this is about rubbing and massaging your body in the shower to make it iron hard?

    Gee, the joke writes itself...



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    Posted On:
    1/23/2006 2:27pm

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    Quote Originally Posted by RustyNail
    I found this seller on ebay over a year ago and although I know he can't be a master at 22 years of age, which I seriously doubt he ever claimed in the first place, I did have a positive purchasing experience and have been dealing with him since then. I did a search on the defend.net forum you speak of but cannot find anything when searching for iron palm arts except normal discussions of iron palm training. i do see thousands of people selling dit da jows on the internet, so what seems to make iron palm arts dangerous but the others safe? i use the jows but have considered them high quality because i have purchased from another place and did not like the quality.
    Apparently the guy the false emails were attributed to is a bigshot police trainer and he started google and legal investigations as soon as it happened. The site had to pull the thread while it was investigated.
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