A WMA manual with groundfighting

[Cdnronin]

Is it safe to assume that this was done while wearing a codpiece?
Maybe sanchin-dachi isn't useless after all... :rolleyes:

Place upper thigh between your legs, sit down on leg as you pull up at ankle, faster takedown, and your lil buddy stays in place.

[DerAuslander]

I would love to get into some traditional German MA, get back in touch with my heritage, etc. AnnaT, any hopes of getting you to teach me a few things at the MMTD?

[Anna Kovacs]

I would love to get into some traditional German MA, get back in touch with my heritage, etc. AnnaT, any hopes of getting you to teach me a few things at the MMTD?

I do mostly armed work, though I am getting into ringen quite a bit as of late. But sure, i'd have no problems demonstrating what I know.

[Anna Kovacs]

I LOVE that takedown (I thought I'd made it up - never seen it elsewhere!)!!!

Do you have a name for it?

Unfortunettly I dont really have a name for it outside of "Durer's technique 80"

Most wrestling and dagger techniques dont really have names, just descriptions and sometimes a number or something.

There might be a name for it in the descriptive text next to the image, unfortunettly it's handwritten middle high german, and I can't read it.

[seeker of truth]

I'm a big fan of that, you can put muh-fuckas down hard with it.

I also like this kneebar attack.






http://www.varmouries.com/wildrose/fiore/section1.html

http://ejmas.com/jwma/articles/2000/...nput_1000.html

Scroll down for one of my favorites. Pictures from the Modern Army Combatives manual right next to illustrations of the same techniques from Paulus hector mairs fight book.

http://www.paulushectormair.com/CQC_PHM.htm

I looked at all of them, the first one I reconized from the flower of battle, I never really liked those ones cause they don't look all too effective. The second looked like a complete sytsem of wrestling...Looked very cool. The third one was pretty informative, do you know if their style is based of those picutres or something else?

[Anna Kovacs]

I looked at all of them, the first one I reconized from the flower of battle, I never really liked those ones cause they don't look all too effective. The second looked like a complete sytsem of wrestling...Looked very cool. The third one was pretty informative, do you know if their style is based of those picutres or something else?

I've had some luck using some stuff from the first one (Fiore's "Flower of battles"), I was looking at it yesterday and I think I am starting to see some good applications in the clinch for a lot of stuff i thought was questionable before. I am hoping to do some clinch sparring in the near future and try some of the stuff out. Most of the techniques in Fiore appear in many other sources aswell so I have a hard time imagining them to be useless being that they're so common across a long streatch of time and differant masters from differant cultures.

But I try to remain objective and realistic and until I get the chance to use them in sparring against a resisting opponent at the gym I can't personally vouch for them. I do howver have good feelings that I'll be able to bust out some Fiore next time I am in the clinch as I was looking at the techniques very studiously yesterday trying to find a place to fit them.

I think part of it is I don't really get much chance to heavily drill a lot of the unarmed techniques so I'll look at them and go "oh, thats cool" and i file it away in my brain, but most of it is not instinctual enough to execute smoothly under pressure as of yet, so it's really only every now and then that I think to try and pull it off, sometimes it's a hit and sometimes it's a miss.



The third one is cool because the photographed techniques are from the Modern Army Combatives manual and are taught to the US army.

They are not based off the illustrated techniques directly, but the resembleance is very clear.

[Anna Kovacs]

http://photobucket.com/albums/b260/annatrocity/Durer/

120 Images of ringen techniques. Some of them I have used successfully, some of them I can see the utility in, some of them just confuse the hell out of me. Enjoy.

[DdlR]

The Codex Wallerstein has recently been translated into modern German and English, including full descriptions of the unarmed combat techniques (which actually comprise most of the book's content) - it's available from Aamazon.com at http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/158...lance&n=283155

[Toby Christensen]

I'm a big fan of that, you can put muh-fuckas down hard with it.

I also like this kneebar attack.






http://www.varmouries.com/wildrose/fiore/section1.html

http://ejmas.com/jwma/articles/2000/...nput_1000.html

Scroll down for one of my favorites. Pictures from the Modern Army Combatives manual right next to illustrations of the same techniques from Paulus hector mairs fight book.

http://www.paulushectormair.com/CQC_PHM.htm

That comparative page kicks arse. Well done.

[martialfiend]

I'm a big fan of that, you can put muh-fuckas down hard with it.

I also like this kneebar attack.






http://www.varmouries.com/wildrose/fiore/section1.html

http://ejmas.com/jwma/articles/2000/...nput_1000.html

Scroll down for one of my favorites. Pictures from the Modern Army Combatives manual right next to illustrations of the same techniques from Paulus hector mairs fight book.

http://www.paulushectormair.com/CQC_PHM.htm

Yeah oh look someone's pulling my leg.