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  1. Samfoo is offline
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    Knee + Head = Black Eye * 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by greese1
    First, most of these assume you have someone with a **** turtle. If someone has a clue you are not going to let you put a hook in. They are going to be so damn tight that thier elbows are inside thier knees. If you are in Judo and someone turtles, you are pretty much wasting effort trying to crack a turtle.
    Agreed, but even in Judo not everyone has a perfect turtle, and a lot of time these are techniques that you sink in as they fail a throw: e.g. someone goes for soenage, screws up and drops to turtle. Well you're still holding their lapel when they go down, and they can't turtle immediatly.

    In my experience though, rollovers are MUCH harder to get on Judo guys than BJJ guys.
    Quote Originally Posted by Osiris
    Imagine if track was run like the martial arts community. While the winning teams would just sprint down the field, smoking the competition, you'd have a bunch of losers running around explaining how they can skip down the track just as fast. Never mind that it doesn't fucking work. Oh no, they're too fast for track. They run on the STREET.
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    I just got back from visiting my Judo club last week and learned a modified version of the "Brazialian" (the loop choke I described at the begining of the thread). Instead of a choke, this one is a really tight pin, and is _really_ uncomfortable for the person being pinned.

    Essentially it is the same technique with one change. Instead of reaching around and grabbing the lapel near the neck, reach behind the arm and grab as close to the waist as possible. Try and get a lapel, but just grabbing a hunk of gi should be enough. Perform the roll as I described before, and you should have a really tight pin. I was able to hold it on a guy > 60 pounds on me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Osiris
    Imagine if track was run like the martial arts community. While the winning teams would just sprint down the field, smoking the competition, you'd have a bunch of losers running around explaining how they can skip down the track just as fast. Never mind that it doesn't fucking work. Oh no, they're too fast for track. They run on the STREET.
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    I <3 the reverse omoplata. I am a convert.
    And that's when I figured out that tears couldn't make somebody who was dead alive again. There's another thing to learn about tears, they can't make somebody who doesn't love you any more love you again. It's the same with prayers. I wonder how much of their lives people waste crying and praying to God. If you ask me, the devil makes more sense than God does. I can at least see why people would want him around. It's good to have somebody to blame for the bad stuff they do. Maybe God's there because people get scared of all the bad stuff they do. They figure that God and the Devil are always playing this game of tug-of-war game with them. And they never know which side they're gonna wind up on. I guess that tug-of-war idea explains how sometimes, even when people try to do something good, it still turns out bad.
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