1/16/2006 4:53pm, #11
Take them to court. They have been sued a number of times in Alameda, Contra-Costa, and Solano counties. They have not once showed up in court, so you will automatically win.
You will probably have to hire someone to serve them their papers, as they generally try to avoid any acceptance of court documents.
If you need help figuring out exactly who to serve, or where to potentially send papers, just let me know. I know the names and the haunts.
1/16/2006 5:31pm, #12
- Join Date
- Jan 2006
- tae kwon do
thanks for the replies.
When i de-enrolled i followed all the contract's instructions, which included sending all necessary documents via certified mail to their CORE office. I have receipts of the certified mail and the contracts, payments etc. i also went to their office one day and got the sensei to sign a form stating that i only received two weeks of training, because i anticipated this ****. im pretty sure i stayed within all the contracts bounds, and i hope this clarified things. im going to withold from pasting the contract verbatim until the legal dust settles.
1/16/2006 9:41pm, #13
Which sensei signed this for you? If for some strange reason you feel uncomfortable writing their whole names, use initials, I will know who it is.
1/17/2006 4:18am, #14
- Join Date
- Jan 2006
- Napa, California
- Kung Fu
I am not a lawyer.
For anything under $5000 (in California) you can go to small claims court.
They don't allow people to bring laywers in to speak, each person gets one shot to state their case, and that's it. It helps to bring notes (for the speech) and any evidence.
I don't like to think of myself as particularly litigious, but I've found satasfaction there on a couple of occasions, having a hard time finding honest roomates, landlords, and (yes, for shame) girlfriends in this happy little world.
My biggest caution on the process: appearance won my two of three cases, over reaching may have lost my third (I was, of course, right).
If they never appear (as Beka says) they lose, so keep in mind this: losers have to pay court costs (not much, actually, but still) and there are cheap, horrid ways of having the summons served (last time I checked you could trouble the Napa Sherrif's Dept. to do it for less than $15 in some cases).
//edit: and by "appearance" I mean: my opponants showed up looking shoddy.
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1/17/2006 5:21am, #15
I wonder if some kind of voodoo sacrifice might help.Monkey Ninjas! Attack!
1/17/2006 6:43am, #16Originally Posted by JKDChickThere are no wrong threats, only wrong answers. (Strategy game truism)
1/17/2006 11:40am, #17Originally Posted by Beatdown Richie
Oh gosh - they both sound so fun. Can't we do both?You can't make people smarter. You can expose them to information, but your responsibility stops there.
1/17/2006 12:07pm, #18
- Join Date
- Jul 2005
- Guelph, Ontario, Canada
- Ex-TMA/KB Noob/Judo Noob
I vote for Gong Sau!
Seriously though, why didn't alarm bells go off when training was $100 per week!?!?!
Unless they're going to teach you teh r3al Dim Mak it's pretty obvious you're getting ripped off.
Shop around next time and don't sign contracts. I personally won't sign in any place for more than three months, and even that is a stretch.
As far as I'm concerned a teacher should be confident enough that his training will keep people coming back, not the contract they're forced to sign.
Contracts in martial arts are bullshido! In my opinion.
1/17/2006 12:58pm, #19Originally Posted by kurrimasta
1/17/2006 3:00pm, #20
Wow $400/month per student is pretty good money. Think I'll start a new thread: How do get a franchise?