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  1. kurrimasta is offline

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    How can I get my refund from West-wind Berkeley?

    hey guys,


    i wish i had seen this forum before enrolling at west-wind, but oh well. i signed up for a 16-week trial program for $1600 in october. After two weeks of training I requested a refund and de-enrolled from the school. till this day they have been giving the weirdest run-around why they can't pay my refund. at first they said wait till november, then till january when i'll get it "for sure." now apparently there are 12 people ahead of me to get a refund and they are using all their resources to pay their rent. it's all a bunch of lies, and a ****-poor organization. It seems like I might have to take a legal route sometime soon...


    can anyone offer me advice to get my money back?



    thanks
  2. Mor Sao is online now
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    Posted On:
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    supporting member
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    Take them to small claims court. Did you read the contract before you signed it? You might be out of money if you did not use certified mail to send them your requests as well as document sending them those particular documents.







  3. El-Wood is offline

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    Posted On:
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    take them to court - check to see if one of the local news channels has an "on your side" program and get them involved... I seem to remember it being channel 5 for some odd reason in the bay area but its been almost 7 years since the last time I lived there so I'm probably way way off...
  4. antman is offline

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    channel 7 on youur side actually
    "Its not important to be strong, its just important not to be weak."
  5. Gezere is offline
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    Posted On:
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    supporting member
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    This is why LONG term contracts are not a good idea, for the consumer that is. Hell I bitch about cell contracts and now my ISP wants a one year commitment. You don't know how well the service will be and they want you to commit to for a long time!!!

    Anyways maybe one of the Legal types on the board can give you some advice.
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  6. gangrelchilde is offline

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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by kurrimasta
    hey guys,


    i wish i had seen this forum before enrolling at west-wind, but oh well. i signed up for a 16-week trial program for $1600 in october. After two weeks of training I requested a refund and de-enrolled from the school. till this day they have been giving the weirdest run-around why they can't pay my refund. at first they said wait till november, then till january when i'll get it "for sure." now apparently there are 12 people ahead of me to get a refund and they are using all their resources to pay their rent. it's all a bunch of lies, and a ****-poor organization. It seems like I might have to take a legal route sometime soon...


    can anyone offer me advice to get my money back?



    thanks
    OK, wait a second. First of all, did you SERIOUSLY pay $1600 for 16 WEEKS? Is there a typo in there somewhere?

    Anyway... The main issue you need to tell us before you can get advice is "Why did you leave?" That's the question his attorney and anyone hearing the case will ask. Also, you really need to give us some info on the contract. Did it have a clause describing how you could be released from any financial obligations? Did you follow those obligations? I'm not intimately familiar with California law; I practice in PA (And there are a few people here on Bullshido who can vouch for me, including Matt Bernius). But if you didn't read the fine print and just decided to stop going, you should probably count yourself lucky the school hasn't decided to take you to court for breach of contract.

    If you give the requested info, some of us may be able to give a better opinion.
  7. Sam Browning is offline

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    Posted On:
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    hall of famestaff
     

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    Please print a full copy of the contract language here.
  8. Zendetta is offline

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    Whatever happens,write it up for Bullshido if you can (after the legal smoke has cleared).it would be a good follw up to Bunyip's piece.
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  9. new2bjj is offline

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    Everytime I go by one of those west wind schools, I want to yell-" run for your lives", having beem a former member. But no way was it nearly as expensive as it is now, on even adjusted for inflation. good luck in court- I'm sure their contracts are iron clad, though.
  10. SammyKing is offline

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    Posted On:
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    Holy hell, $400 a month? What do they teach you there?? How to use martial arts to rob a bank?? If thats the case, you found the right teachers.
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