New full contact Tae Kwon Do

**MistaKickz** · Posted On: 1/16/2006 7:09am

Yeah.. A Jump Spin Heel Kick to the head without a padded helmet isn't going to be good for the fighter getting kicked. You saw the Korean fighter knock out the Greek guy in Athens right? He used the tip of his foot AND the Greek guy was wearing head gear. Just think what it will be like in this type of competition. A fighter might use his heel instead, and the fighter he's kicking isn't wearing any head gear. So yeah of cource there's going to be injuries. Not to mention spin side kicks that are extremlely capable of breaking ribs. I think once this league gets some more exposure, they'll start fighting other styles in full contact competition and hopefully make Tae Kwon Do look like it should be.

***Omega Supreme*** · Posted On: 1/16/2006 8:21am

Originally Posted by martialfiend

Makes we wonder the leathality of full contact tkd. probably more dangerous than muey thai. TKD throws more power into the juming kicks. certainly more variety and can reach greater heights. The boxing skill is pretty bad but that's more than made up by their kicks.

*clicks on translator:

Originally Posted by martialfiend

(English)I wonder if kick to head hurts? Muay Thai dumb because me know nothing. I like flying man with cape. TKD guy no box good, kicks pretty, duh.

That's what I thought, didn't make any sense in English either.

**Ronin.74** · Posted On: 1/16/2006 8:45am

This isn't really anything new, they've had pro TKD in Korea for years its just never enjoyed a lot of popularity due to the amount of contact involved when compared to Olympic TKD. If anything what this guy is offering with the point system and contact rules, is a watered down version of what they do in Korea.

In Korea Pro TKD hand techniques are allowed, (no penalty for not kicking enough) of course kicking is permitted but they also allow knees and possibly takedowns (I'm a little sketchy on this point because my Korean isn't spectacular). Also I believe that they compete in kickboxing events not Pro TKD events and ocassionaly they will participate in MMA events in Korea.

I will admit that some of my information might be a little out of date now, I was last there in 03.

**MaverickZ** · Posted On: 1/16/2006 9:14am

tkd:

***DerAuslander*** · Posted On: 1/16/2006 9:27am

Originally Posted by omega

*clicks on translator:

That's what I thought, didn't make any sense in English either.

LMAO...

You must spread more Reputation around before giving it to Omega again.

**amichaell** · Posted On: 1/16/2006 9:45am

Originally Posted by AAAhmed46

If most TKD schools embraced full contact, how many touch fighters would drop the art?

I know jack about TKD, so I'll give an answer based upon what I've seen and heard from WC. I'd say many would drop. We've had students leave once they begin sparring. I think many people who walk through our door think all we do is static drilling all day. I'm not sure that the thought of "Hey, in a few months I'll actually be trading punches with someone." ever crosses their mind. I've also heard our instructors say they've had to dial it back so they could keep students.

It's fine with me that they leave. My time and money are valuable to me, so when I'm sparring someone in class I'd rather spar someone who wants to be there and who will give it their all, rather than someone who half-asses it. Will all-around hard sparring lead to less students, and thus fewer and smaller classes? Yeah, but that's probably not a bad thing.

***DerAuslander*** · Posted On: 1/16/2006 9:45am

Originally Posted by MaverickZ

tkd:

No, Mav. That's not TKD.

That's TKD.

***DerAuslander*** · Posted On: 1/16/2006 9:53am

okokokok....

EVERYBODY CHILL THE **** OUT!!!

This is nothing new, as Ronin.74 said.

Pro TKD exists in Korea.

This is close, but not it. I do like the inclusion of throws, though.

Also note that you win this by knockout. Just because you make points for contact, does not lower the level of contact. You make points in boxing too, right?

The site above does not include videos of actual sparring or matches, so we cannot conclude how hard core or not it is.

But yes, Pro TKD exists. There's such thing as full contact TKD whether Osiris likes it or not. There's also Kyuk Too Ki, which does for KMA what Sanda and Sanshou do for CMA.

Here's the irony, though, right? I've seen footage of Japanese Pro TKD...it's gay. It's just WTF Sparring without chest gear and head gear. They wear gloves, but they're still not allowed to punch to the face...what's the point of that?!?

How do you like that magenta, bitches?

**TehDeadlyDimMak** · Posted On: 1/16/2006 10:04am

Originally Posted by martialfiend

Makes we wonder the leathality of full contact tkd. probably more dangerous than muey thai. TKD throws more power into the juming kicks. certainly more variety and can reach greater heights. The boxing skill is pretty bad but that's more than made up by their kicks.

That's a joke right?

Did you just try to give validity to jumping kicks?