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I'm curious, other than allowing the partners to switch back and forth between offence and defense, what are the preceived benefits of doing this drill with gloves, rather than pads?
I can understand why you would do this if your class was full of beginners who were not quite ready to hold the pads, or if your club didn't own enough pads for everyone to use, or if your class time was too short to allow each student enough time to drill, on their own, against someone holding the pads for them. But for an advanced class, with enough time and pads for everyone to use, what technical advantage is there to doing this drill with gloves and not with pads?
And how often are people hurt during these drills? I've seen people hurt their arms/wrists while they were holding Muay Thai pads, during round house kick drills. I would think that the chances are high that someone would eventually hurt themselves preforming these drills, over and over again, with just gloves. -
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one of the benefits I've seen of it in my class is the ability to react (as a pad feeder) in a more realistic manner to the attacker, making for a more realistic drill over all. Being able to go back and forth and keep everything up beat makes the drills just that much closer to actual fighting.
When doing these drills in class I am generally able to hit with solid contact on my punches though I tend to control my kicks. Being able to hit pads, and hit them hard is good too, but I think they're both valid and useful exercises, and not just for beginners. -
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Do you just wear your normal sparring gloves when you perform these drills? Or do you wear those special focus mitt boxing gloves?
And have you fought yet, with 10 oz fight gloves? I'm curious to know how you compare the feel of these drills to throwing punches with 10 oz gloves. Wearing 16 oz gloves when you spar makes good sense because you don't want to hurt your partner. But I'm assuming these drills aren't full contact, and are meant to be as close to sparring as possible. But I'm guessing that you still do these drills with 16 oz gloves? Or maybe you don't? -
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1/13/2006 12:29am--
interesting, I haven't heard of this before. I've not used anything but my 16oz gloves, so I can't really contest this with personal experience.
Originally Posted by j416to
edit: though I must admit, it does sound like an awfully strange side effect. I wouldn't imagine the gloves being a little thicker would make a huge impact. -
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Kidspatual has answered that already. Also, targeting the gloves helps accuracy, IMHO, because the target is smaller than with your regular pad. Of course that could be compensated with focus mitts.
Originally Posted by j416to
I feel that the purpose of this drill is to keep the class as dinamic as possible, avoiding the cool down and helping to develop endurance.
As Kidspatula said, it also resembles more sparring than the pads. With the pads you can train attack combos effectively, but this drill is more effective to train defense IMHO.
Iīve pointed it out before, but it bears repeating: this drill does not susbtitute pads and heavy bag work, and, of course, sparring. Itīs a complement.
Usually, this drill is more "technical" if I may say so. When we do pads (usually after this drill) we donīt work on combos as we do with this drill. Instead, we work specific techniques, like the roundhouse, or more simple combos (one-two, or one-two-kick).
Now, it is very important to spot the point at which this drill stops being a technique drill and becomes a McDojoish set "secnario". Tha is, altroguh we can complicate this drill adding supposed reactions of the opponent (like a lowkick counter, or a one-two counter), itīs imperative to keep it real, keeping the overall techniques to a minimum.
I forgot to add that itīs easier with this drill to train the switch from striking range to the clinch.
So far Iīm by no means and advanced stundent. Thus I cannot answer that. You have answered yourself the benefits of this drill, at least some of them, in your previous paragraph.
Originally Posted by j416to
So far, no one in my class has been really hurt. Sure, your arms may hurt a little with this drill. Also, it servers, for beginners, to get acustomed to hits coming your way.
Originally Posted by j416to
I was very afraid the first times I did this drill. Until then, I didnīt know what was blocking a roundhouse with my hands (gloved, of course). Then I was like "hey, itīs not as scary as I think it was going to be, Iīm still alive".
From what Iīve seen it is more possible to get hurt with the pads than with this drill.
EDIT:On the 16 or 10 oz. gloves.
Most people at my gym, myself included, are/were too cheap to have more than one pair of gloves.
I use 10 oz. gloves myself, and most people used 12 oz. gloves. Anyway, Iīve heard people saying the same thing, the 16 oz. gloves are way bigger than the lighter ones, and it is easier to block and cover with them. These people said that they trained with lighter gloves, because at amateur fights they use the 16 oz. They felt the extra weight, but if they can defend and cover properly with 10 oz. gloves, with 16 their defense was way better.
For the record, I bought 10 oz. gloves because I hadnīt the slightest idea of how much should they weight.Last edited by Lights Out; 1/13/2006 7:44am at .



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The "dreadful gloves" drill