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  1. saturnjunkie is offline
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     Style: FMA & judo-ultra noob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadnought
    SBG actually looks down on a lot of Kali. Their footwork is generally flat too.
    Ok. Let em look down all they want. Doesn't bother me A BIT. The phillipines are a knife society. They know how to use em. End of story, IMO.

    Also, are you referring to kali's footwork or SBG?

    I find kali's footwork to be extremely dynamic and useful, but the again, I'm not learning from some idiot who claims to be a master instructor for arnis/kombaton, but in reality is most likely just someone who got their probational black belt (I can think of at least one instructor in particular) in arnis and skipped out, leaving their training (and certification) to expire.

    So maybe the higher quality of the training I get lends towards a higher level of skill.

    The sad truth is that because of Remy's push to make Arnis/FMA a reality for america (sometimes for the wrong reasons), that there are a great many underqualified instructors for FMA out there.
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     Style: karate,MMA(between gyms)

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    How is the knife fighting in SIlat?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AAAhmed46
    If you have seen Jim Carey knife defence; you would know how shockingly realistic his imitation of many karate/akido/tkd really is.


    I look at krav maga's knife defence and i cant help but applaud.


    But, how did such ackward methods of knife defence come about?


    Why is it so common? Why do they do it like....jim Carey.
    My guess would be that it is a smaller portion of the curriculum, preformed most of the time as static drills (with perhaps the exception of aikido, i remember some unscripted drills) and no real free sparring.

    I studied some escrima in high school, but we really didnt do any armed vs unarmed drills.

    I play around with it once in a while with my students, simply just to do something different once in a while, but allways with the following disclaimer, "if someone has a knife give them what they want, otherwise you will get cut."

    If you want to learn knife defense id go learn from someone who specializes in it, not from a generalist. That STAB program looks interesting.
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    1/13/2006 10:12am


     Style: BJJ, Boxing, Self Defense

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    and over in Bellflower, California there's Jerry Wetzel and the Redzone program which I would recommend.

    http://www.centerlinegym.com/ and are the same crew as SBG only US based
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    You can always check out Floro Fighting Systems (http://www.florofighting.com/).

    There are a few people in the States teaching this, I would highly reccomend Ray's system.

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    Seems alot of reality based self defence systems and stab seem to use the same tactics.

    All of them use dynamic drills.
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    i trained with remy presas and some of his guro's (ray dianaldo in particular) and they were good like many TMA's commercialism has had a real negative effect
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     Style: karate,MMA(between gyms)

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    I think people want learn what they see in demos instead of something that works but looks ugly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AAAhmed46
    I think people want learn what they see in demos instead of something that works but looks ugly.
    No. Everybody wants to believe that everybody else believes that so they can tout how new and different their blade defense garbage is.

    I for one would like to see a demo of the relevant part of STAB, which is how they close the gap against the guy with the knife. If that works, than it works. If it doesn't work, then it's bullshitting its way through half the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eyebeams
    I for one would like to see a demo of the relevant part of STAB, which is how they close the gap against the guy with the knife. If that works, than it works. If it doesn't work, then it's bullshitting its way through half the problem.
    Why are you closing the gap instead of running?
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