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  1. The Wastrel is offline
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    Such as thou art, sometime was I.

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    Posted On:
    4/20/2003 11:29pm

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     Style: Brazilian Jiujitsu

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    It's a pleasant day at the beach, and Johne Johneston, 98 pound weakling, is relaxing and rubbing baby oil on a buxom young woman whose bikini top is slipping off of her shoulders. Behind her are a few dozen other beauty queens waiting for similar treatment. A strange bearded man approaches...

    Abdelkarim Hussein Mohamed Al-Nasser: You there! Infidel!

    *Kicks sand in face of Johne*

    Women: *Collective Sigh*

    Abdelkarim Hussein Mohamed Al-Nasser: Come with me to paradise my troupe of lovely virgins...

    Women: Virgins? Oh well...

    *Follow Abdelkarim Hussein Mohamed Al-Nasser, careful to stand three paces to his rear.*

    Johne Johneston: Gee, if only I knew something of the gladiatorial techniques applicable to today's weird world of global terror! I've avoided martial arts until now, but Christophe Clugston's bizarre claim to gladiator training resonates withing my Anglo self strangely. Perhaps it's because Russell Crowe is SO AWESOME!! I'm going to take out another mortgage on my home so I can buy the complete video set.

    *One week later*

    Johne goes to the beach in search of Abdelkarim Hussein Mohamed Al-Nasser and his stolen beauties. He sees a Strange Mustachioed Man being followed by a troupe of what appear to be buxom burkha-clad women. Careful to avoid racial profiling, he approaches him...

    Johne: Abdelkarim Hussein Mohamed Al-Nasser. You stole my women!!

    Abdelkarim Hussein Mohamed Al-Nasser: No I didn't. These are my daughters. Don't defile me in front of my daughters!

    Johne: Okay. I guess so, but prepare to die you Grappling Lunatic!

    *Strikes anti-grappler pose*

    Abdelkarim Hussein Mohamed Al-Nasser: *Detonates radiologic bomb*

    Osiris: Who are those guys?
    Blade: Kyokushin + Muay Thai hybrid...
    Osiris: Not everything that resembles muay thai is muay thai.
    Blade: No, but this IS just that. They put them together.
    Osiris: Wow, youre right.
    Normally, I'd say I was grappling, but I was taking down and mounting people, and JFS has kindly informed us that takedowns and being mounted are neither grappling nor anti grappling, so I'm not sure what the **** I was doing. Maybe schroedinger's sparring, where it's neither grappling nor anti-grappling until somoene observes it and collapses the waveform, and then I RNC a cat to death.----fatherdog
  2. IndoChinese is offline

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    Posted On:
    4/21/2003 12:12am


     Style: Liu Seong Gung Fu

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    meant the odor of bullshido emanating from that webpage. those grapplers will just hate your guts after you humiliate them..lol
  3. JKDChick is offline
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    Posted On:
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     Style: JKD, BJJ

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    *sits frozen at her computer in loathing*
    Uhhhh .... guys? That web page has a Vancouver, BC phone number. These guys are based in Vancouver. Uhhh ... I think I'm gonna throw-up.

    Also, possibly pay them a visit. There's a woman's self-defense course on Thursday nights in May -- on the totally off-chance they'll show me ANYTHING, I'm going to drop in to the first class and play dumb. Let's see what happens.

    Shadowy Figure: "Principal Scudworth, that riot was unacceptable."
    Principal Scudworth: "Unacceptable? Did you see the pool? They FLIPPED the bitch!"
    -- Clone High
    Monkey Ninjas! Attack!
  4. Blad3 is offline

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    4/21/2003 3:35am

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     Style: Submission Wrestling.

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    Osiris: Who are those guys?
    Blade: Kyokushin + Muay Thai hybrid...
    Osiris: Not everything that resembles muay thai is muay thai.
    Blade: No, but this IS just that. They put them together.
    Osiris: Wow, youre right.
    lol <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>


    I guarantee grapplers and seasoned streetfighters will HATE your guts when you EFFORTLESSLY humiliate them with these NEW SIMPLE MOVES! (Obsoleting their years of training, instantly!)
    Wow, how many times have we seen that? Lol, look at him tackle at the waste. He looks like a tough guy though, at least.

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    Full Metal Jacket.
    "Training = pain." - I said that.

    PizDoff when drunk: "I'm actually MOST pissed that my target for the evening got drink...then I gave her my Bullshido Canada hoodie like a gentleman because she was outside with not much on...did I mention she barfed twice when I got our jackets...steaming barf is kinda fascinating..." - PizDoff.
  5. Pandinha is offline

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    Posted On:
    4/21/2003 4:01am

    supporting memberhall of famestaff
     Style: Muay Thai & BJJ

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    You must jump on this now to get this mind-blowing ?insider? opportunity RIGHT NOW? cause it?s gone in 11 days!

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    "Just what makes a pure grappler think he can survive with an experienced striker. Especially if that striker isn't following any particular rule set and is well aware of what the grapplers strategies are".
  6. Blad3 is offline

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    Posted On:
    4/21/2003 6:39am

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     Style: Submission Wrestling.

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    yeah it;s just a sale tactic.

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    "I bet you're the kinda guy that would **** a person in the ass and not even have the god damn common courtesy to give him a reach around."

    Full Metal Jacket.
    "Training = pain." - I said that.

    PizDoff when drunk: "I'm actually MOST pissed that my target for the evening got drink...then I gave her my Bullshido Canada hoodie like a gentleman because she was outside with not much on...did I mention she barfed twice when I got our jackets...steaming barf is kinda fascinating..." - PizDoff.
  7. DRD

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    4/21/2003 7:51am


     

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    Clugston in my opinion amd from reviewing several of his tapes and claims, is a major joke. You would really have to see him do his crap to believe it. He even changes his name from Christopher early on to something like Christoph in his marketing material.


    It is all marketing. You will laugh, ALOT at his stuff. I try to take what is viable from any style or any stylist, but this clown has nothing redeemable.

    DRD
  8. Sam Browning is offline

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    Posted On:
    4/22/2003 11:32am

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    Hi everybody:

    Originally when I opened this thread I thought that Chris might be claiming a reading knowledge of 10 or more languages. With a dictionary he could translate a newspaper article. When I reread the website posted by his associate, this associate claimed that Chris SPOKE 10 languages which is a lot harder to do.

    I would be interested to hear from JKD Chick how the seminar went and if any information of value is taught. I agree with blade, Clugston looks tough but even if he can pound people into the ground this does not mean he is telling the truth about other matters. If such abilities ensured truthfulness then Frank Dux would have actually won the Medal of Honor and spied for the CIA.

    From memory I remember that one of chris's Black Belt ads mentioned that he had trained with a band of the most fearsome unknown fighters around who descended from the gladiators. I am very suspicious of Chris's gladiator claims for the following reasons.

    The Roman empire crapped out in 476 AD (though some historians argue about this date, moving it a decade or two) The only institution that had any affiliation with the later empire that has lasted to the present day is the Roman Catholic church which had the following advantages 1) tens of thousands of followers, 2) hundreds of churches, monisties (spelling error) and other institutions spread over a wide geographic area. If the barbarians sacked one monistary, it wasn't the same as destroying the one Shaolin temple.

    In contrast the gladiators were organized in guilds and clubs of less then several hundred members. They did not have the institutional support for surviving the 'dark ages' that the R.C. church did. But lets suppose we take Chris at his word that some of these fighters decided to stick together. Why is there no trace of them in the historical record? Remember in China the triads and other secret societies participated in the Boxer rebellion and other insurrections leaving their mark in official documents penned by their enemies, the central goverment.

    It is unbelievable that one of these other people who belonged to this group would not have come out of hiding to make some money. Look at how many people are now claiming to teach SEALs hand to hand combat. The unknown band of fighters story makes no sense.

    I have a way to get to the bottom of this matter. Chris claims that he speaks ten or more languages. I live near Yale where there are lots of linguists and I would issue the following challenge. If Chris will tell me which languages he speaks I could pick say 4 or 5 of them and arrange a conference call in which my linguists would see if he could hold a sixth grade level conversation in their particular language. Other rules would be:

    I get to pick which of the 10 languages I test without prior notice to chris. This conference call would be tape recorded by both sides so that 1) We can make sure it is actually Chris if this issue later comes up. 2) chris will have a record if he wants to claim the test is unfair, i.e. someone tests him by using obscure scientific terms which I agree would be unfair 3) To avoid future disputes about what happened, no bullshido.

    What do people think?
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    Posted On:
    4/22/2003 11:32am

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    Hi everybody:

    Originally when I opened this thread I thought that Chris might be claiming a reading knowledge of 10 or more languages. With a dictionary he could translate a newspaper article. When I reread the website posted by his associate, this associate claimed that Chris SPOKE 10 languages which is a lot harder to do.

    I would be interested to hear from JKD Chick how the seminar went and if any information of value is taught. I agree with blade, Clugston looks tough but even if he can pound people into the ground this does not mean he is telling the truth about other matters. If such abilities ensured truthfulness then Frank Dux would have actually won the Medal of Honor and spied for the CIA.

    From memory I remember that one of chris's Black Belt ads mentioned that he had trained with a band of the most fearsome unknown fighters around who descended from the gladiators. I am very suspicious of Chris's gladiator claims for the following reasons.

    The Roman empire crapped out in 476 AD (though some historians argue about this date, moving it a decade or two) The only institution that had any affiliation with the later empire that has lasted to the present day is the Roman Catholic church which had the following advantages 1) tens of thousands of followers, 2) hundreds of churches, monisties (spelling error) and other institutions spread over a wide geographic area. If the barbarians sacked one monistary, it wasn't the same as destroying the one Shaolin temple.

    In contrast the gladiators were organized in guilds and clubs of less then several hundred members. They did not have the institutional support for surviving the 'dark ages' that the R.C. church did. But lets suppose we take Chris at his word that some of these fighters decided to stick together. Why is there no trace of them in the historical record? Remember in China the triads and other secret societies participated in the Boxer rebellion and other insurrections leaving their mark in official documents penned by their enemies, the central goverment.

    It is unbelievable that one of these other people who belonged to this group would not have come out of hiding to make some money. Look at how many people are now claiming to teach SEALs hand to hand combat. The unknown band of fighters story makes no sense.

    I have a way to get to the bottom of this matter. Chris claims that he speaks ten or more languages. I live near Yale where there are lots of linguists and I would issue the following challenge. If Chris will tell me which languages he speaks I could pick say 4 or 5 of them and arrange a conference call in which my linguists would see if he could hold a sixth grade level conversation in their particular language. Other rules would be:

    I get to pick which of the 10 languages I test without prior notice to chris. This conference call would be tape recorded by both sides so that 1) We can make sure it is actually Chris if this issue later comes up. 2) chris will have a record if he wants to claim the test is unfair, i.e. someone tests him by using obscure scientific terms which I agree would be unfair 3) To avoid future disputes about what happened, no bullshido.

    What do people think?
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    Posted On:
    4/22/2003 11:38am

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    Oh, one other thing, In Europe there are now groups that are similar to the society for creative achronism over here, and who now train with gladiator style weapons. These people are honest and admit that they are recreating a lost art. They do not claim direct descent from such fighters.
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