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    When you round your back out like that in a horse stance, doesn't that make your spine straight?

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    Yes, as stright as it can be considering it has a natural curve to it. Basically it puts it in the strongest posible position to directly connect the upper and lower body together. Arching (shoulders back, butt out) moves this connection BEHIND the bodies center, and is inheritantly weak and off balance. That is why we don't want to do it. it's a pretty posture, designed to impress members of the opposite sex during courtship, not get the job done in a fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royal Dragon
    Yes, as stright as it can be considering it has a natural curve to it. Basically it puts it in the strongest posible position to directly connect the upper and lower body together. Arching (shoulders back, butt out) moves this connection BEHIND the bodies center, and is inheritantly weak and off balance. That is why we don't want to do it. it's a pretty posture, designed to impress members of the opposite sex during courtship, not get the job done in a fight.
    That must be why I always feel like such a slob when I shadow box or hit the bag, because of my posture. But I guess it's better than having a stick up my ass like Ricardo Arona:

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsuruken
    Just expressing one point of view. No offence meant. This is the diversity of this thing called "martial arts" and indeed humanity to be able to express differing viewpoints. We all have something to learn and should look for that which brings us closer together rather than that which separates us
    All quite true, however, there are certain "univesal constants" that apply to the Human Conditions ... "good" bio-mechanics ... and in your stills you express none of these "good" constants - qualities.

    BTW, I "cut my teeth" in Fukien White Crane ... Feeding Crane sub-system, Family variant ... some 4 decads plus ago. I might know a little about this thing. The BEAST

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    MMA examples of good and bad structure
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royal Dragon
    MMA examples of good and bad structure
    Although to his credit, no matter his posture or structure, Arona is an excellent fighter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meng_mao
    Although to his credit, no matter his posture or structure, Arona is an excellent fighter.
    He's an excellent grappler. His standup is terrible, and his standing up posture reflects that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatherdog
    He's an excellent grappler. His standup is terrible, and his standing up posture reflects that.
    So the IMA posture principles are mostly limited to stand up?
    I mean it seems obvious that posture means something very different on the ground, but JFS has said that some of the same mechanics can apply.

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    Arona strikes with his chin WAY up. Bad idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phrost
    Arona strikes with his chin WAY up. Bad idea.
    It's a bad idea, yes. But he's stood with Fedor, Shogun, Wanderlei twice. Somehow, he has never managed to get hit square on the chin. I think he's just really good at pulling his head back and also changing levels.

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