Thread: "Royal Dragon" Who Is He???
1/15/2006 1:28am, #111
1/15/2006 1:32am, #112Originally Posted by JFS USA
So then how can you condemn speed bagging without, at the same time, condemning standing in rediculous poses?
1/15/2006 1:37am, #113Originally Posted by fatherdog
wai khru ram muay isn't taught as having anything to do with fighting, so the comparison is silly.
1/15/2006 2:12am, #114I meant those corny twisty stances. They SUCK.
I basically drop down into it by jambing the lower leg between thiers and unwinding.
If you can't see the humor, i'm afraid, sir, that you are actually a robot.
In fact, neither of us are qualified to criticize Arona's standup game, because neither of us compete on that level.
Arona is doing what he's doing for a reason. It is NOT the greatest stance for many things, but that is not the point, the point is it generates power and speed for punching while allowing easy mobility in the upper body. It also allows me to see what's going on, which is harder with my head down.
The concept of you or RD attempting to criticize Arona is itself comedy gold.
The point here isn't that Hedge sucks, but that those kung fu stances suck and anyone advocating fighting like that doesn't have any basis to criticize ANYONE.
About Kung Fu stances sucking, yes, they do, but no more than some BJJ "stances" I've seen demonstrated by some of the Gods of BJJ. Honestly, the editors of Butt Scoot Illustrated need to shut the **** up about shitty stances.
We don't have that confusion in BJJ or muay thai. We practice like we fight and/or compete.
1/15/2006 2:21am, #115
Originally Posted by Kidspatula
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Static postures are bullshit ... they have -0- application, are a total waste of time, and anyone who "values" them is brain dead ... happy now?
Here, I'll even go a bit further ... the real skill isn't in the final posture ... it's to be found in the transition phase. Anyone can "hit it right" if they are in proper position ... it's getting to the proper position ... under control ... that is key ... whomever controls the transition phase basically controls the fight.
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1/15/2006 2:23am, #116Originally Posted by JFS USA
1/15/2006 2:42am, #117Originally Posted by Omar
So Hedge is guilty of what you MMA nutriders like to call "Licking the masters balls and his cock at the same time". Apparently because Arona is a revered "master" he is above criticism. The fact that he leads with his chin out and puffs his chest out must be rationalized with the logic: He is a pro, therefore, he knows what he's doing.
On a scale of one to one thousand, where 1,000 means Peter Aerts, Diesel Noi or Muhammed Ali at the peak of their careers, my standup is 25. Arona's standup is maybe 200.
The standup of anybody who does those postures, possibly including you...well, a team of highly paid mathemeticians have been working diligently for years to figure out how the number "minus infinity kajillion" can exist.
I'm not saying noone is qualified to criticize Arona's standup.
I'm saying you are unqualified to criticize arona's standup.
On the other hand having "studied" kung fu for ten years no more makes you an authority on any kind of fighting than having studied Ikebana.*
Never mind the fact that the "kungfuey" guys criticising include:..
Me and RD.
Ok, all us BJJihad people are talking about improving our takedown game. Someone shows a shot of Royce vs....well, anyone really. A sub-discussion evolves where we show bad shot attempts in MMA.
We're all raffling and roffling it up, when an aikidoka pokes his veiny, throbbing shaft into the discussion with a loud and nasal expression of agreement and offers a diagram showing how Royce could have beaten Sakuraba if he had only taken the time to perfect his ma-ai through practicing sanky, nikkyu, and a host of other assorted twirly wristlocks.
When the aikidoka is met with jeering and calls for his lynching, he is in no position to opt out of his just punishment by crying/spitting "Nutriderz!".
So apparently, even though we all agree that his posture is poor, RD and myself just by virtue of the style we train are deserving of ridicule for holding the same opinion as everybody else.
*standard Asia/Omega clauses are in effect
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1/15/2006 2:51am, #118Ok, all us BJJihad people are talking about creating a takedown game.
1/15/2006 3:28am, #119Originally Posted by hedgehogey
When you've learned to punch harder than my girlfriend on a bad day I'll consider your opinion worthwhile.Fighting evil and upholding justice in blue silk pajamas baby!
Bah!!! Puny Humans.
1/15/2006 3:33am, #120
Omar, you should realize you're sounding marginally less stupid than Hedge, and much less funny.