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  1. Torakaka is offline
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    yeah, I have that vid on my comp. After watching it again, it seems to me that he doesn't pivot so much when he just snaps a kick in, but when he drives through with his kicks, his foot pivots more.
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    I've held pads for guys who had the shittiest kicking 'technique' but could lay welts on me through the pad

    I've held pads for guys who had perfect kicking technique but couldn't kick their way out of a wet paper bag

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    I'm sure you mentioned it somewhere but I don't have time to read all of both threads but what exactly does keeping ourself flatfooted gain you over the more Thai style posiiton up on your toes?

    Also teach your partner to block high kicks with his palm in, not to take them on the pinky side. Thats how I broke my arm.
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    Actually, I learned specifically to keep the pinky side out because palm in it's too easy for the kick make your hand punch you in your own face. ...but that's for mid level kicks where you ant to catch it with the meaty part of your forearm, closer to the elbow and maybe back it up with the palm from the other hand. For head kicks, pretty much what you said:

    http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/foru...4&d=1136588566

    His main problem blocking the high kicks is not so much the orientation of his hand but the fact that he is still a bit scared of them and wants to stop them farther out from his body instead of just protecting his territory like I am doing in the picture above.

    Maverick,
    ...the "step then kick" method is also telegraphed. its success in professional venues is a testament to the fighters.
    That's why you don't throw it in isolation. You don't "step then kick". You step with the jab and then kick. You need to play with your opponents perceptions a bit. I saw an older thread around here saying that a jab-left round was an unorthodox combo because the jab supposedly puts you in a poor position to throw the lead leg round. If you do it my way you can have full "wind up" for your lead round. My Muay Thai coach taught us not to switch step because that telegraphs.

    Kidspatula,
    yeah, I have that vid on my comp. After watching it again, it seems to me that he doesn't pivot so much when he just snaps a kick in, but when he drives through with his kicks, his foot pivots more.
    I don't have the audacity to compare myself with Deckers and I am still waiting to see the clip but after going through my vids of my self kicking I discovered that what you described is what I do. I thought I wasn't pivoting at all. The vids showed me that I pivot just a little bit right at the "end" of the kick.


    J416to,
    I don't understand how it is easier to kick someone's leg out from under them when they are planted well vs. floating on the ball of the foot. ???

    Ikken,
    ... now if your foot was completely flat, and you were a bit on the retarded side, then you could damage your ACL for sure.
    That's a real good reason for working with that footwork drill I posted earlier. No twisting of the ACL. It's all in the folding of the pelvis. You can see it in the clip of me kicking air too. That's what I was trying to show, what happens when you "spin around". Ballet dancers have excellent turnout from the hips not from twisting their feet out from the knees. My drill trains the opposite. Twisting inwards from the hips...and outwards for that matter, so instead of pivoting on the ball you turn in or turn out at the hip and to a certain degree, even with those "fused" joints within the pelvic girdle.

    This post is getting too long.

    Thanks Shooter for showing up again. I used to get told by everyone at the gym that I was kicking wrong too. Lots of tips on how I should do it right for more power....untill they held the pads for me. :5eek: Loose, whole body connection is deceptive. It doesn't look like much.
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    Sorry Whiteshark I forgot to actually answer your question.

    Connection through the ground at impact and durring follow through. I would rephrase the question though, what is gained by floating through the kick?

    BTW, you got this clip right?

    http://media.putfile.com/kicking-drill

    Please tell me if that is not the low kick drill. I can't access my own putfile files anymore. It's blocked "due to persistant abuse". *groan*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omar
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    J416to,
    I don't understand how it is easier to kick someone's leg out from under them when they are planted well vs. floating on the ball of the foot. ???......

    Omar

    I wasn't very clear with my statement, I apologize for that.

    It isn't a matter of being harder or easier to cut kick someone's leg out from under them. It's more a matter of how your body will react to be cut kicked. If you're balancing up on the balls of your foot, when you're cut kicked, then you're more likely to simply lose your balance and fall over. But if your foot is planted firmly on the ground, then you're more likely to twist out your knee when you lose your balance, because your foot isn't likely to roll over or rotate on you.
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    Oh...I got you.

    I should point out though that the way I am advocating still has your foot turned out about 90 degrees. Just step first and then kick instead of pivoting in the middle of the kick. So if you catch a cut kick it is still behind the knee not on the side so the result should be the same. Your leg buckles with the natural bend of the knee or gets kicked out completely. No sideways torque involved.
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