Fun with "Kicks" (and that wacky round of mine)

**Devildog** · Posted On: 1/04/2006 7:00am

I have seen your video clips on this thread and the other threads as well. Also, I realize, from observation and reading, that you are lax with your hands because the videos are more demonstration than anything else. However, not to be a dick, but I think if you were to show proper form and technique, regardless of the circumstances, more people would be able to use your clips for instructional purposes. You have a lot to offer, especially to those of us who do not study Muay Thai or CMA. Remember, practice does not make perfect, perfect practice makes perfect. Always do your best. Overall, I enjoy your clips. :ninjafigh

**Omar** · Posted On: 1/04/2006 8:28am

Thanks. I'll think about that.

...more people would be able to use your clips for instructional purposes....

That's a terrifying thought that had actually not crossed my mind. But you're right. If I took the care to try and make them more "standard" all around, they could be of more use than just conversation starters.
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Now gently stepping around Thaiboxeren's attempts to troll me and get this thread thrown out of the forum into "Your martial art sucks" and answering some of his criticisms because they do highlight legitimate differences in our ideals of motion:

I mean, your hips don't lead your leg.

I know what you mean. It's just not that important to me. I'm trying to lead with my center rather than with the hips. It's not that I don't get power from the hips but instead of whipping it out there I am trying to create what is called "zheng jin". The whole body as a unit at the moment of impact. Not an impulse whipping out the leg but the full weight of the body rocking onto the other guy.

Why sacrifice kicking with actual power for the ability to "change what your doing mid stream?" Are you prepping for some TKD point fighting?

I understand that you believe that my kicks are slow and innefectual. Nevertheless, taking it as easy as I did, today my partner from the last batch of clips showed me how I had thoroughly bruised up his left arm, both legs and one knee. Today we had to agree to no kicking as he needed a chance to heal.

I have a clip coming up on a new thread showing contrasting some fairly conventional footwork with my shitty unbalanced Chinese footwork. Feel free to troll me there too.

Doesn't matter. It's basic physics. If you step to the right, then kick towards the left, you are fighting your own inertia. Sure you can still spin, but most of your power went into the air towards the right by the time your kick impacts your target, which is to your left at this time.

You're entitled to your opinion. All I can say is that it appears that it went completely over your head and since you have proven yourself neither able, willing or even interested in learning anything new...not just here but on any thread you have ever participated in in your entire stay at Bullshido it's not worth the effort to try and explain it to you. You're already kind of on a virtual ignore. I am answering much of your post not for your benifit but for the sake of others who are lurking and thought much the same thing.

Pic please?

I see, so you didn't look at the camera with a goofy look on your face?[/quote]

Thanks for proving my point about trolling. You said that I was looking away from my partner when kicking. Now you are admiting in your own post that I was looking at the camera man. I guess you had the sound turned off too so you couldn't here me actually talking to the camera man.

Still waiting for the pics. It's so easy. The footage is up there. Just take a still out of the video and you will have a point. Right now it just looks like you are trolling.

**Lights Out** · Posted On: 1/04/2006 8:34am

Originally Posted by Omar

I know what you mean. It's just not that important to me. I'm trying to lead with my center rather than with the hips. It's not that I don't get power from the hips but instead of whipping it out there I am trying to create what is called "zheng jin". The whole body as a unit at the moment of impact. Not an impulse whipping out the leg but the full weight of the body rocking onto the other guy.

But the purpose of leading with the hips is putting your weight behind the kick.

**saku39** · Posted On: 1/04/2006 8:41am

so, you dont pivot into your kick? so your only power generation comes from swinging your leg at the hips and your walking forward motion? is there somewhere else you are making power?
here are the areas you could be using to make power:
-pivot
-body weight
-flexion of the abdomen
-flexion of the hip joint
-extension of the knee joint

and here are the ones you are using (kinda):
-body weight (though since you are walking in, i geuss this means its at walking speed)
-flexion of the hip joint (not the most powerful muscles to be sure)

so where does your power come from?

about the pivoting back and closing your leg thing. its like you are throwing a punch and then letting it come back to your gaurd at a nice leisurely pace, no real urgency. basically, you throw the kick and then relenquish any other strikes or good defense for the next second or two because you have to let your kick come back. im going to the georgia aquarium with my girl today so i cant post any video or pictures.but give me another day.

**Omar** · Posted On: 1/04/2006 9:06am

Instead of asking if I do or don't lead with the hip why not just look at the clips?

I'll put up some vid caps later but suddenly I am real busy over here.

**Lights Out** · Posted On: 1/04/2006 9:20am

Well, you don´t seem to be leading with the hips.

And I´not saying that you don´t/can´t kick powerful, i´m just saying that I don´t see leading with the hips on that clips.

**Moleculo** · Posted On: 1/04/2006 9:20am

Originally Posted by saku39

here are the areas you could be using to make power:
-pivot
-body weight
-flexion of the abdomen
-flexion of the hip joint
-extension of the knee joint

But wouldn't that require extra effort?

:evil:

**Omar** · Posted On: 1/04/2006 9:50am

rofl.

I actually can't tell how much sarchasm is in that post. My irony meter is broken. I also have no time to try and pic out some vid caps. Midnight is closing fast and I want to start anther thread before I crash out.

I'll get back to you later Light's Out.

Still waiting for anyone else at all to post something of their own to talk about.

**PirateJon** · Posted On: 1/04/2006 9:51am

Can't view clips at work - but the air-kick I watched last night seemed to have plenty of rotation or pivot or turning or whatever the hell you want to call it to generate power.

But I try to STFU about kicking since if my feet come off the floor more than an inch or so I'm doing it wrong.

**Teh El Macho** · Posted On: 1/04/2006 10:55am

Crap, I can't watch the clips from work... stupid firewall thinks megauploads is a porn site or something. Which means I'll have to wait until tonight to watch them... damn.