Fun with "Kicks" (and that wacky round of mine)

**Omar** · Posted On: 1/02/2006 9:04am

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=DQCYF0KR

There are 2 things I want to show or discuss with this clip. The first is that it's a nice handy clip for when people are like "DUh..how do block high kicks..." My partner is actually a bit non-standard but he's got incredible forearms so it doesn't matter. I'll post another clip of me doing what I think is a more standard blocking method tommorow. I'm tired of editing right now.

The second thing and, to me, the more interesting thing is that I am trying to show an application of the wierd looking round kick I showed on the "what does this have to do with kicking?" thread and also on the "Muay Thai Roundhouse" thread. In addition to the clip of me blocking, I'll add a shorter clip of my other partner calling it quits because I'm hurting his arms to much with those pansy ass silk pajama kung fu kicks. I had to find me another partner.

This first clip shows the basic kick and then 3 different applications of it. The drill is simply for me to only throw repeated rounds and for him to block. No combos, no faking which side. Nevertheless on each of the 3 variants I throw he can't block them. I even throw them slow and pull them since I can pretty much tell ahead of time he won't be able to block them because he's never seen that kind of a kick before. He keeps grabbing the kick after it lands which kind of ruins the demo but don't be distracted by that. I am throwing heavy kicks when I know he will block them and then pulling them when I can see he won't.

**Omar** · Posted On: 1/03/2006 3:52pm

I guess nobody cares anyways.

Here's some more basic drilling but with a different partner. We had to give up on the low kicks because even though he's wearing shin pads unders his pants, by the time he got familiar enough with the drill his shins were already shot.

At the beggining of the clip is a favorite counter of mine to high kicks. The rest is just alternating mid level and head level kicks.

link:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YA93YIK3

**Cullion** · Posted On: 1/03/2006 3:56pm

I'm no expert, but the kicks in the first clip looked powerful and controlled. The bagua step looks like it worked.

**Omar** · Posted On: 1/03/2006 4:05pm

I was just starting to think I was wasting my time.

It's funny how much complaint there was about there being a special grappling forum and no striking forum but then we get our forum and hardly anybody has anything to discuss. lol.

I'm not sure if you can see why the guy turns around and gives me his back in the second clip. If you can't, I'll point it out later.

**Torakaka** · Posted On: 1/03/2006 4:08pm

I've gotta go in a minute, but I'll look at the clips when I come back and give my dumb dumb opinion

**Omar** · Posted On: 1/03/2006 4:16pm

You know, just as when you first came on this site some of us thought you were just another anti-CMA Muay Thai nuthugger, you are in danger of making a similar jump to conclusions in the other direction.

I'm just trying to get some discussion going here and I have been purposely putting up clips of stuff I figure that the non-CMA people can pick apart and talk about. I'm actually going out of my way to select "kickboxing" type work that I have done and stay aways from the "fruitier" CMA stuff that I actually spend much more of my time on.

**MaverickZ** · Posted On: 1/03/2006 4:24pm

forgive my ignorance. i was not privy to the other threads (also i'm lazy). but what makes this kick unique? i have my own opinion on this. but i'm curious about what makes this kick different, or similar, to others.

**Bang!** · Posted On: 1/03/2006 4:34pm

I see a nice use of bodyweight and some good fluidity. I also see footwork that not enough people employ. On the negative side, I also see you dropping your guard like it's hot.

**Stick** · Posted On: 1/03/2006 4:37pm

First clip, your hands are all over the place. It would be one thing if you swung out your same side arm and kept the other nice and tight to protect yourself, but those hands were just everywhere- that may have had something to do with pulling to spare your friend. While your stance starts out with your feet not so far apart, before you throw almost every kick you take a step forward with you standing/pivoting leg and for a momment you're spread out too much.

As to his blocking, personally I am a big fan of "earmuffs". That is to say I don't take all of the kick with just my forearms (I've got girly little nancy wrists!), so I find I can take a lot more force when I simply tuck the appropriate side arm up a little, fist palm against my ear/side of head and take the blow along the forearm and bicep/tricep. Aside from sparing my poor little wrists, it also helps to ensure that a kick isn't going to sneak past any block to contact my head, and two that I don't get the "recoil effect. That is if I fire a rifle with the stock away from my face as I sight I am very likely to get smacked harder (got quite the welt the first time I fired an SKS) as it kicks back then if I had kept flush to the weapon, similairly if I block any blow away from my body that still has the force to push through I will get thudded; I saw a kid who kept his hands up at all times get KO'd by a right cross that he tried to block with his hand- the fist kept going and it just sort of smashed the kids fist into his own nose, he went down and was done for the night. I prefer to share the impace over as much of my body as possible to dissipate the force than to take it one single place- though from time to time I do find myself doing the two forearm block seen in the second video.

BTW, it almost looked like you were doing an earmuff block in the second vid. Were you?

Completely unrelated, how long have you been in China now?

**SuperGuido** · Posted On: 1/03/2006 4:40pm

I'm envious of your relaxation, as I'm chronically tense and stiff. I also liked the first "stuffing" drill from the second video. I'd probably want to stuff it a little earlier, but that is purely dependent on how quickly you could see the incoming roundhouse.

Also, I'm not sure if I'm a moron...but it seems like you just barely bend the leg before delivery, as opposed to the more severe chambering that I'm used to.

I'd like to read your description, and I'd like to see some of the "Fruitier" CMA clips that you've done. People can **** over CMA all they want...expert movement is still amazing to watch, regardless.