for those who think tkd is no match for mt...

**DCS** · Posted On: 1/04/2006 2:25pm

I stand corrected but:

Chief Instructor (Kickboxing, Gung Fu, Judo Program, Rolling Hills Estates) 1995-2000
Rod Kei & Snake Blocker were partners and opened up "Academy of Martial Arts" in Rolling Hills Estates (1996-1997). It was the first Mixed Martial Arts studio in the Palos Verdes Pennisula teaching Judo, Kickboxing, Gung Fu, and Weapons.

3x Professional Western Kickboxing World Champion

Savate World Cup Champion

3rd Degree Black Belt - Judo

Metro Judo Champion

3rd Degree Black Belt - Tae Kwon Do

Reading Rod Kei's background can also be said:.

The muay thai stylist becomes desperate and resorts to choking"

.

But it wasn't a Savate match, it was a kickboxing match, under kickboxing rules.

**Gezere** · Posted On: 1/04/2006 2:32pm

Originally Posted by odd_lifter

the bullshido faq says styles don't beat styles, people beat people. This is very correct, yet many of you seem to disagree with this. can anyone explain this?

It means there are PPLE fighting but there needs to be some clarification because all styles are not equal. Its true its up to how well the person uses their style but some just simply train better than others and thats where the real issue is.

If TKD and MT both have elbows, knees, punches and kicks why is it that you average MT fighter beats your average TKD fighter? TKD have only produce very few vids of a TKD fighter doing well against other styles but there are many many many more of MT doing well against other styles.

**Shawarma** · Posted On: 1/04/2006 2:33pm

Interestingly enough, although Pagan goes on and on about the awesome doom kicks of devastatingness of TKD, Mr. Kei throws a single kick in the entire clip, preferring to beat the thai fighter down with some highly un-TKD-like punches.

**Matt Anderson** · Posted On: 1/04/2006 2:36pm

Originally Posted by JohnnyCache

Better vid. Less Staged.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...0764&q=ong+bak

Why did the sprinklers stop? Is it 'cause they were about to fight? How did the sprinkler system know?

**FictionPimp** · Posted On: 1/04/2006 2:38pm

Originally Posted by odd_lifter

the bullshido faq says styles don't beat styles, people beat people. This is very correct, yet many of you seem to disagree with this. can anyone explain this?

It's the level of training that matters not the style. If we have 2 guys, both do TKD for a few years then one stays at the ATA dojo and does point sparing, the other goes and trains rough so he can compete in K1 comps, who are you going to put your money on when they meet up? I think the point people have with TKD is 95% of the schools out there do not train to fight. I can prove anything using the internet by finding the exception to the rule. But that does not mean it is true all the time. I know very shitty boxers, this does not mean I can say I can beat mike tyson. Most boxers are tough because they train to get hit hard and to hit back hard. I really dont think you can honestly say that is true about the majority of TKD out there. Just like you can't say the majority of aikido schools train to fight. It just doesn't hold water.

I trained in TKD for many years. I was very very good at point sparing. But I was a horrible fighter. I have spent many years trying to reverse that training. Yes, I train in aikido, but I also dont kid myself about what I'm training in aikido for. I know that if I care about self defense, I'm going to need actually fight in the striking, clinch, and grappling zones. Not just plan tag or do kata. That is not comfortable for most people. I'm not all that comfortable with striking. I dont like taking shots, I perfer grappling. But I will do it because I dont want to be all kata and no fight. Thats like playing madden on your xbox and claiming it makes you an expert coach.

**Guerrero** · Posted On: 1/04/2006 3:22pm

Originally Posted by Shawarma

Interestingly enough, although Pagan goes on and on about the awesome doom kicks of devastatingness of TKD, Mr. Kei throws a single kick in the entire clip, preferring to beat the thai fighter down with some highly un-TKD-like punches.

Exactly. It was the punches that did the thai fighter in, not TKD kicks. MT guys tend to be terrible boxers.

**DCS** · Posted On: 1/04/2006 7:32pm

If you want to see a good TKD'er go here:

http://bullshido.net/forums/showpost...86&postcount=1

SEARCH FUNCTION NOOBS!!!!!

**Thaiboxerken** · Posted On: 1/04/2006 7:45pm

Originally Posted by odd_lifter

the bullshido faq says styles don't beat styles, people beat people. This is very correct, yet many of you seem to disagree with this. can anyone explain this?

The FAQ is partially correct. It's the fighter that beats a person, their "style" is part of who they are as a fighter, along with training, talent, tenacity and tactics. If it was all about the person, training would not be necessary, and martial arts would never have need to be invented.