illegal moves in your club?

**Taiwan-Evo** · Posted On: 1/16/2007 2:02am

What is illegal at your club while rolling?And was there are specific reason for it being made illegal?Are there submissions only certain belts(experience) can do?

BJJ,Judo or Submission wrestling I am interested in.

If there is anyone from Gracie Barra schools ? it would also be good to hear what there policy is.

**Das Moose** · Posted On: 1/16/2007 3:47am

Well, basically for no-gi neck cranks, leg locks (with the exception of heel hooks) and so on are okay, usually for gi we allow them as well. As with everything else you put it on slowly and use common sense; if your partner isn't tapping, maybe he just doesn't realise he's in danger.

**IzzyDaHedgehog** · Posted On: 1/16/2007 4:17am

White belts using footlocks/leglocks other than the Achilles lock is frowned upon, in my experience. People at that skill level can't be trusted to safely be on the giving or receiving end of those.

**CannibalCrowley** · Posted On: 1/16/2007 9:48am

Slams are the only thing out of bounds while rolling. Lower body submissions against noobs is looked down upon; but that only applies for the first month or so.

**Subparr** · Posted On: 1/16/2007 10:03am

Granted, I have only been training a little while, but at my school, slams, and ANY subs below the waist aren't kosher for us yet. However, I heard for blues and higher, it's best judgment. Nobody is out to hurt anybody after all. :)

**Epicurus** · Posted On: 1/16/2007 10:06am

No heel hooks. I'm pretty sure slams are illegal too but I do them all the time because I'm an asshole.

Neck cranks and leg subs other than the heel hook are fine. The instructor even encouraged me when I tried an Achilles lock on my first roll.

**Taiwan-Evo** · Posted On: 1/16/2007 10:09am

Anyone have rules against compression locks?

**PoleFighter** · Posted On: 1/16/2007 1:19pm

There are no stated rules where I train, but the etiquette seems to be that you abide by the ruleset of the lowest belt. I.e. no kneebars on whitebelts, even if you are a brown.

**UpaLumpa** · Posted On: 1/16/2007 1:31pm

Everything is open. Dipshits that twist fingers and toes get dealt with.

Douchebaggery is controlled by peer "influence".

**Wolf** · Posted On: 1/16/2007 1:35pm

I think about the only things that are discouraged at our gym are heel-hooks and kneebars for safety reasons. We don't deal much with leg locks of any sort anyway because they tend to be low-percentage.