Baseball bat choke

**Aesopian** · Posted On: 1/20/2006 6:30pm

I'm still looking for black belt techniques. I keep finding white belt techniques done well.

**UpaLumpa** · Posted On: 1/20/2006 6:37pm

Originally Posted by NSLightsOut

What the **** is a Black belt technique? Honestly, I'm sick of this myth being perpetuated over and over again. So sick of it, in fact, that I'm going to start a new thread about it

I think it means his scissor sweep sucks.

**NSLightsOut** · Posted On: 1/20/2006 6:42pm

Originally Posted by UpaLumpa

I think it means his scissor sweep sucks.

Scissor sweeps = too easy to defend unless you've off balanced your opponent already. Good in transition, flawed in isolation against people who know how to defend it.

**UpaLumpa** · Posted On: 1/20/2006 6:55pm

Yeah, and?

**Aesopian** · Posted On: 1/20/2006 6:58pm

__________ is too easy to defend without a good setup.

**NSLightsOut** · Posted On: 1/20/2006 7:06pm

You're accusing me of having a lousy sweep that I haven't even bothered to attempt in over a year, mainly because you aren't controlling your victim enough (as you would be with, say, an arm drag) and partly because it doesn't leave you with many options if you **** it up, as such not fitting into my overall game (I'm all about the options).

Hence, I couldn't care less.

**UpaLumpa** · Posted On: 1/20/2006 7:16pm

Try to reread the thread.

Here I'll walk you through it:
You: What the **** do you* mean by black belt technique
Me: I think he means his scissor sweep sucks**

*you being the guy who made the comment, not me
**By which I mean his whole game is probably ****.

Hope the astericked comments help, it's clear you're slow.

**UpaLumpa** · Posted On: 1/20/2006 7:20pm

For the record, I actually have tried your setup. I'm having more success with the grab the shoulder variation (tried it again after reading your post) of the cross-collar than I used to (duh, I'm trying it more and getting better with it). Still suck with the palms up deep collar grab one though.

***Cassius*** · Posted On: 1/20/2006 7:25pm

Originally Posted by NSLightsOut

You're accusing me of having a lousy sweep that I haven't even bothered to attempt in over a year, mainly because you aren't controlling your victim enough (as you would be with, say, an arm drag) and partly because it doesn't leave you with many options if you **** it up, as such not fitting into my overall game (I'm all about the options).

Hence, I couldn't care less.

I like the scissor sweep "position" quite a bit. There's regular old scissor, reverse scissor, triangles (don't do those a whole lot. goes with having short tree trunks for legs), armdrag setups, lapel chokes (that I don't use much but probably should) . . .

Has someone copywritten scissor guard yet? If not, I'm totally going to.

P.S. - I'm pretty sure they were just joking about your scissor sweep.

**NSLightsOut** · Posted On: 1/20/2006 7:35pm

Originally Posted by UpaLumpa

Try to reread the thread.
Hope the astericked comments help, it's clear you're slow.

Hung over, stuck in data migration hell (non-relational db to relational db) which needs to be completed and tested by friday. Slow is probably a good adjective for my thought processes at the moment. Fire bad, tree pretty.

Good to hear you're having success with the grab the shoulder choke variation.