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  1. Omar is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by PirateJon
    Footwork question. To me, you appear to keep you feet too close as you move. This is bad in boxing as you can be pushed off balance. Big :eusa_naug where I train.
    One of my favorite bag drills for a long time used to be to practice hitting as I was falling backwards. You can take advantage of the fall and turn it into rotational momentum for a looping outside hook. I've spent a fair bit of time specifically trying to figure out how to hit with power when I was "off balance".

    Have you had any problems with being pressured while moving? If so, is your opinion that the increased mobility of your footwork make the unstable stance worth it?
    Stability through mobility.

    The most stable "stance" is the one where you have all your weight on one leg. . . like in that fist vidcap on the previous page. The "pidgeon toed" one. The second one is pretty dangerous as my weight is already starting to shift to the left foot and my COG is not properly centered over the rear leg. It's tipping precariously to my left-rear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omar
    One of my favorite bag drills for a long time used to be to practice hitting as I was falling backwards. You can take advantage of the fall and turn it into rotational momentum for a looping outside hook. I've spent a fair bit of time specifically trying to figure out how to hit with power when I was "off balance".
    This is pretty fascinating since it's so very different than what I've been taught. If I'm ever off balance my first goal is to recover while protecting myself. Have you had much success with attacking while off balance? Does it open you up to counter-attacks?


    Quote Originally Posted by Omar
    Stability through mobility.

    The most stable "stance" is the one where you have all your weight on one leg. . . like in that fist vidcap on the previous page. The "pidgeon toed" one. The second one is pretty dangerous as my weight is already starting to shift to the left foot and my COG is not properly centered over the rear leg. It's tipping precariously to my left-rear.

    [edit: wasn't prepared for the page flip. Added quotes for clarity]
    Now this is the second time you've mentioned that you are more stable with all your weight on one leg. Can you explain a bit more about it or the theory of it? In football, weightlifting and now boxing, I've always seen that balanced weight distribution is much more stable than unbalanced. Even when moving in boxing where I am shifting my weight from leg to leg, my feet are apart so that if I stop moving to duck a shot or throw one I'm pretty much evenly balanced.


    edit - does this tie into your "Stability through mobility"? Meaning that you aren't balanced but that you can quickly be balanced by moving?
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    I was going to use this to start a new thread but it seems like it's in context here.

    There's a nice contrast between "traditional" and CMA footwork being shown here. There's also one other thing I am especially proud of but I don't want to say untill after the clip has been properly torn apart. :blob8:
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    Iīve just wathced the vodeio, here are my first impressions:

    -You almost gave your back to the guy a couple of times.
    -You crossed your legs a couple of times too. I think most of the times you were too far to be the target of an unbalancing attack, but still... I think i understand what you were trying to achieve, that is, economize the movement you need to keep facing a moving opponent. But I think that could be accomplished without crossing your legs. Boxing matches are plenty of examples about this, how you can circle your opponent economizing the movement (that is, wasting as minimun energy as posible) without crossing your legs.
    -Also, it would have been good if you had thrown a kick or two, just to see how "every step is a kick".
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    The guy showed up with bruises all up and down his legs and arms from out production of my last set of clips. lol.

    Not only did I not throw a kick......I think I only threw maybe 2 punches. There was something going on you didn't pick up on.
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    Not only did I not throw a kick......I think I only threw maybe 2 punches. There was something going on you didn't pick up on.
    Aye, but we were talking about kicks, so...

    I donīt know what else Iīm missing, apart from the distance you cover in any step.
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    Whoops. I guess I should put it back on a new thread after all. I'll tell you about that guy I am working with later. I am getting confused. Am I talking about footwork or about kicks?

    Any comments on the other guy in the clip? That's what I was driving at. It's not something you could necessarily tell by looking but part of the reason I am playing the way I am is because of who he is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omar
    Whoops. I guess I should put it back on a new thread after all. I'll tell you about that guy I am working with later. I am getting confused. Am I talking about footwork or about kicks?
    A footwork that has to do with kicks, isnīt that the main point of this thread?

    Quote Originally Posted by Omar
    Any comments on the other guy in the clip? That's what I was driving at. It's not something you could necessarily tell by looking but part of the reason I am playing the way I am is because of who he is.
    Duh, I dunno who he is... apart form a noobie. He shouldnīt raise his back foot when throwing the right cross.
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    No clips at work. I'll check this out from home in ~10 hours or so.

    And of course I'd only be talking about and looking at the footwork since kicking isn't boxing. :new_uklia
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    Check out my new thread when you get back. It's not boxing but we dissalowed kicking for the exercise. Hands only. Two very different styles represented and your boxing based perspective will be welcomed. I have to go. It's not midnight and I am about to turn into a pumpk. .. dsafa; o'fe
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