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  1. Beatdown Richie is offline
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Kata is solitary forms. Bunkai is applied kata with two or more participants. You don't know what kata is, your randori undoubtably leaves much to be desired, and don't even get me started on your ne waza.
    Next time you're at a bookstore, pick up "Kodokan Judo", turn to Chapters 11-18 and find a whole bunch of Judo kata that are clearly two-man forms.

    Then again, what does a schmuck like Jigoro Kano know about what forms are...
    There are no wrong threats, only wrong answers. (Strategy game truism)
  2. Budd is offline

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    Donn Draeger's judo kata book (written with Tadao Otaki), JUDO FORMAL TECHNIQUES -- A Complete Guide to Kodokan Randori no Kata . . . is greatly recommended.

    There's some very interesting discussion regarding where kata training fits in well with traditional practice as well as to prepare for competition.

    Donn Draeger, for those that don't know, opened the door for many non-Japanese to train in modern and classical Japanese martial arts. He was a respected instructor at the Kodokan as well as a practitioner of classical arts such as Tenshin Shoden Katori Shinto ryu and Shinto Muso ryu and trained in many other arts.

    And, yes, there are many Japanese kata in a variety of arts that are two-person forms.
    Last edited by Budd; 12/30/2005 10:44am at .
  3. DCS is online now
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    Beatdown Richie & Budd,

    STFU, BSD does BJJ, so HE KNOWS.
  4. Budd is offline

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    *cackle*

    Then I suppose I must submit . . .
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  5. Mr. Jones is offline
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    :icon_lol: I wish at least one person had the nerve to tell BSD he was wrong.
    Lol
  6. Omega Supreme is offline

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    Originally Posted by MEGALEF:
    I wonder what a one man BJJ kata would look like..




    Breakdancing
    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Kagan
    Breakdancing.
    We actually have one and yes it looks like break dancing.
  7. Tom Kagan is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by omega
    Originally Posted by MEGALEF:
    I wonder what a one man BJJ kata would look like..




    Breakdancing

    We actually have one and yes it looks like break dancing.

    :smile: I wasn't joking. Iowa State wrestling coach Dan Gable compares the ground game to break dancing all the time... still amusing, though. :smile:
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    Niether was I.....

    Most of my new guys think its funny until they do it and they love it.
  9. MEGALEF is offline

    Still digging on James Brown

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I haven't got to wrestle properly with anyone for nearly two weeks so I've been going through what techniques I know and gone through the movements.
    At the start of each session we do a lot of shrimping and rolling around on the floor in different ways and I feel that that kind of exercises help a lot for building body awareness on the ground. Ground grappling often involves movements that don't come naturally so a beginner's "how to move on the ground"-series of movements might actually not be a worthless idea.

    Umm.. by "we" - who do you mean?
  10. JFS USA is offline

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    "The Dance is NOT in the Steps." P.R. The BEAST
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