Sword work is for entertainment purposes only! WTF is rolling away from it going to do? Why even bother with it? Why bother wasting your time coming up with a defense of it? You are never going to get attacked by a sword. Here are some stats for you:
Voilent cimes commited in the United States in 2003 involving weapons:
205,896 hand guns
189,765 Knives, box cutters, and other sharp objects that are under 6"
179,528 Clubs and other blunt objects
185 Chain saws
15 Chickens or watermellons
0 by sword weilding ninja's, pirates, knights, or swashbucklers.
I dunno, I have a hard time seeing how a person is just going to stand there while you perform your arm circles to take him down....The first video wasn't as bad as I thought it would be...except for the fact most of them looked very geeky, and the gun thing...
It is a demo
I looked at the first one. I hate it when some sites don't work in firefox!! :qbluepira
Originally Posted by Satori
It was a sloppy demo. ALL the demos I have done in Japan and here are rehearsed. A demo should be like a movie fight scene. Not pressure testing. The demo was not too bad needs a lot more polish for an audience. The sword ukemi drill should be left out as it is an ukemi drill not a sword evasion drill and looks dumb in a demo. Some demos I do are traditional kata, modern applications or a mix depending on the venue and the audience. If you are at a Japan festival than the modern applications won't go over well.
Tell that to THIS guy. :icon_wink http://www.bullshido.net/forums/show...=samurai+sword
Originally Posted by PEtrainer
Police have opened a homicide investigation into the death of a man who was reportedly slashed with a samurai sword early this morning at the Waimalu shopping center on Kamehameha Highway.
Police were told that the victim was attacked by a group of men about 2 a.m. and was slashed in the neck and cut in the back, shoulders and chest area by one of the men who used a samurai sword.
The injured man was taken to Pali Momi Medical Center where he was pronounced dead a short time later.
No arrests had been made in the case as of 8 a.m.
0... that you KNOW OF! :lol:
Originally Posted by PETrainer
In all seriousness, thanks BigNinjaPimp. That's several minutes of my life I will never get back.
And Baguamonk, what's the point if it only works against "untrained people who aren't bigger than you"?
The roll was fine in and of itself, but the other guy could have just as well FedEx'd the sword and gotten it there sooner (and with less tell) :smile:
. The rolling to evade the sword was solid.
For the first video, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they are a fledgling shibu/training group that is isolated from solid instruction. Everyone looks quite inexperienced. They often start in some static posture and quickly abandon form once the "action" starts, and got lost mucking around with what they probably think looks like complex henka but pays no attention to balance and space. The leg/foot work is very sloppy--they are thinking from the waist up which is a no-no (especially with their apparently level of training). I would like them to consider that kamea tell you how to MOVE, not how to stand.
Assuming its a group of college students casually studying under a young dan-grade for maybe a few months, its not ALL bad for a demonstration. What would a most of you detractors look like putting on a public demo, I wonder?
The second video is amusing. I think it's probably related to some bizarre mix of fake Brazillian ninjutsu and aikijujutsu which I've seen floating around before.
Originally Posted by sweats
Actually, rolling away from a sword is faster then running. Remember, most good Ninpo Taijutsu Schools will spend as much time rolling as TKD schools do kicking. As Spunk mentioned before, that wasn't a technique as much as its a drill. It is to be noticed that was half of Ichimonji no Kata from Gyokko Ryu Muto Dori Taihen. My only issue will that part of the demo is just stand up and almost gets hit. If the demo was to run away he should of rolled again to a gain a bit of space or finish the damn kata that involved staying low and counter attacking.
As I said before, the locking was not very good. Looked like a bunch of kids with 6 months of expirence. But I seen way way worse from much higher ranks in the Bujinkan. Hell I know a local 10th Dan Bujinkan that can barely roll.
As for "Can this stuff be applied?" Yes, I do many of these techniques and have used them successful in sparring and at Throwdown (Hell I did that jump on the back Choke at the Dec MD TD). Of course there is little/no resistance, it a fucking demo. Its a skit. The average person rather watch WWE then UFC, I know I found UFC boring till I started Martial Arts.
Cept if you're in Austrailia :shock:
Originally Posted by PEtrainer
I think some of you guys are missing the point. Are they a better 'fighter' or more able to protect themselves as a result of their training? The answer is yes IMHO. Most 'ninjas' are the everquest type dorks, they could not fight anyone, anytime anyhow. They could not even beat up an ant. At least this way, they can protect themselves. THey all looked fairly nimble in both of those clips so that is pretty good.
That was Shinbushi, BTW.
As Spunk mentioned before, that wasn't a technique as much as its a drill.
The only way to know for sure is to go get in several fights and limit yourself to only those techniques. BTW--I don't recommend actually doing this.
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