which martial art has the best kicks

**kikkoman** · Posted On: 1/28/2006 10:49pm

I'm not the best example for side kicks becuase I can't even throw them right, but they do work.

If it lands good it can hurt the person. It the other guy is one of those speedy guys that moves alot, then it's hard to make it land hard. If it's somebody who's flat footed and just stands there, then you can make it land hard very easy. Or if you time it right they can walk into the side kick. And back kicks are actually spinning side kicks.

**Jitsuman** · Posted On: 1/28/2006 11:45pm

When I was a TKD'er way back when, sidekicks were my absolute bread and butter technique.

I used them all the time, every angle possible, for everything. I'd use them to judge distance, keep an opponent at bay, kinda like a jab. I'd even "finish" with them.

I used to skip into them too (you know, back foot crosses behind the front, front leg kicks) with great results while sparring. TKD "point sparring" of course.

But hey it worked all the time for me!

Fast foward to sophmore year of college.

Got into a minor 'str33t' fight outside a bar. I was pretty sober, but the other guy wasnt. i didn't want any **** so I figured I'd nail him in the gut with my trusty sidekick and be on my way.

Well as it turned out side kicks dont work so well against a drunk guy bum-rushing you. The guy would just eat the kick before I had full extension on it, and kinda run right throught it. very annoying!

....but eye opening in many ways.

point of the story: Sidekicks dont work so well outside of point sparring.

(the fight was broken up by the guys friends who appologized on his drunken behalf, no real damage was done, and I got laid that night, yehaw)

**AAAhmed46** · Posted On: 1/29/2006 12:04am

Outside of point sparring?

Sanda guys fight full contact.

INfact, their style looks alot like muay thai.

They have AWSOME side kicks, applied in full contact.

MInd you, i do NOT like side kicks, infact in my new school i dont train with them.

But i saw some Sanda clips on MAP; so i think they can be used.

**AAAhmed46** · Posted On: 1/29/2006 12:12am

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...407&q=San+Shou

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...075&q=San+Shou

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...574&q=San+Shou

Just to show Sanda in context.

**Jitsuman** · Posted On: 1/29/2006 12:13am

Originally Posted by AAAhmed46

Outside of point sparring?

Sanda guys fight full contact.

INfact, their style looks alot like muay thai.

They have AWSOME side kicks, applied in full contact.

MInd you, i do NOT like side kicks, infact in my new school i dont train with them.

But i saw some Sanda clips on MAP; so i think they can be used.

I dont knowanything about Sanda so I can't refute that.

but c'mon man, MAP?!?! Those pussies?!?! psshaw!

EDIT: Sanda is son Shou?

**AAAhmed46** · Posted On: 1/29/2006 12:17am

Well, Sanda is full contact. Check out the clips.

**meng_mao** · Posted On: 1/29/2006 12:18am

Originally Posted by AAAhmed46

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...075&q=San+Shou

Just to show Sanda in context.

The middle one is of Scott Sonnon, who is a systema guy/ weirdo. Shouldn't be taken as textbook Sanshou.

**AAAhmed46** · Posted On: 1/29/2006 12:20am

Ah, okay. Thanks.

What about the others?

**meng_mao** · Posted On: 1/29/2006 12:32am

Originally Posted by AAAhmed46

Ah, okay. Thanks.

What about the others?

i think they do great job of showcasing Sanshou. But I'm not an expert.

**losttrak** · Posted On: 1/29/2006 1:25pm

Originally Posted by AAAhmed46

Outside of point sparring?

Sanda guys fight full contact.

INfact, their style looks alot like muay thai.

They have AWSOME side kicks, applied in full contact.

MInd you, i do NOT like side kicks, infact in my new school i dont train with them.

But i saw some Sanda clips on MAP; so i think they can be used.

San Da/San Shou is a fighting format, not a system... if that is what is being implied.

Anyways, side kicks are great weapons but I feel a lot of people don't use them because they are very taxing when compared to a roundhouse. When I fought in San Shou, I sometimes used them to win the first round by sniping people. In the 2nd (and sometimes 3rd), I was already looking to conserve and fight more efficiently. Roundhouses are so power-efficient as it requires minimal effort to maintain proper form and execution. Also, they can be more unpredictable and harder to dodge in certain circumstances.