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  1. Blad3 is offline

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    Truely excellent: - this is what wepaons training and fighting is all about, or at least what it should be about *IMO*. I don't like some of the forms though, I think they're quite unrealistic (a knife is a knife though, so the moves in the forms they use would still kill I'm sure), but the actual training and the actual sparring or fighting look excellent.

    Take a look at some of the Full Contact sparring, or fighting that they, the Dog Brothers and Sayoc Kali people do:

    All the Sayoc Kali : http://www.sayoc.com/multimedia.htm


    Dog Brothers:

    Notice the "Power" clip near the end of this list too.

    http://dogbrothers.tv/videoclips/dbmaa05.wmv

    http://dogbrothers.tv/videoclips/dbmaa01.wmv

    http://dogbrothers.tv/videoclips/dbmaa02.wmv

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    http://dogbrothers.tv/videoclips/power.wmv

    http://dogbrothers.tv/videoclips/footwork.wmv

    http://dogbrothers.tv/videoclips/siniwalli.wmv

    http://dogbrothers.tv/videoclips/punyos.wmv

    http://dogbrothers.tv/videoclips/fang.wmv

    http://dogbrothers.tv/videoclips/stickother.wmv

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    They're good examples IMO, would love to try some of it out, as long as I wouldn't have to do Forms and only Forms...



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    Edited by - Blade Windu on April 18 2003 04:57:16
    "Training = pain." - I said that.

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    "I bet you're the kinda guy that would **** a person in the ass and not even have the god damn common courtesy to give him a reach around."

    Full Metal Jacket.
    "Training = pain." - I said that.

    PizDoff when drunk: "I'm actually MOST pissed that my target for the evening got drink...then I gave her my Bullshido Canada hoodie like a gentleman because she was outside with not much on...did I mention she barfed twice when I got our jackets...steaming barf is kinda fascinating..." - PizDoff.
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    I don't like some of the forms though, I think they're quite unrealistic (a knife is a knife though, so the moves in the forms they use would still kill I'm sure), but the actual training and the actual sparring or fighting look excellent.
    I'm assuming you're referring to the transition drills? They aren't forms in the classical sense of the word. I can't explain it well, but they have a pretty good answer here. http://www.sayoc.com/faq.htm Scroll down to the part about forms and drills.

    You can't really make a judgement about the realistic nature of the drills just because of the fact that you don't understand the thinking and methodology that goes behind each movement. That's not any skin off your nose, it's just true for everyone who hasn't been exposed to that type of training and thinking that goes behind every movement. I'll probably elaborate a bit later, but yeah.

    Guro Marc "Crafty Dog" Denny, one of the founding Dog Brothers, trains Sayoc Kali in my training group. He is a very cool guy.

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    Wow, well it looks like a serious martial art - have you ever done any "Spariing"/fighting like in the Dog Brothers "Gathering" videos?

    You can't really make a judgement about the realistic nature of the drills just because of the fact that you don't understand the thinking and methodology that goes behind each movement.
    It's only fair to say this if you can show me it actually working, like in the Dog Brothers videos, I'd like to see the Sayoc guys in those fights they have (are they in any of them by any chance?)

    I'm really interested in this stick fighting, it looks like the "real thing", they actually train properly etc, and actually practice what they teach. It looks Very good, at least if you have a weapon on you.

    I'll check the FAQ, thanks.

    Guro Marc "Crafty Dog" Denny, one of the founding Dog Brothers, trains Sayoc Kali in my training group. He is a very cool guy.
    One of those two "Dog Brothers" in the clips? That must be helpful.

    I LOVE what that one guy says about Power paraphrasing "If you don't have Power (and only graceful movements), none of this matters, but if you have "this", "this" and "this" (swings the practice stick hard) you will Always be a fighter to be reckoned with." - Very impressive.

    I orginally found their site and looked into your Sayoc site because of that one post you did, so thanks.



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    "Training = pain." - I said that.

    PizDoff when drunk: "I'm actually MOST pissed that my target for the evening got drink...then I gave her my Bullshido Canada hoodie like a gentleman because she was outside with not much on...did I mention she barfed twice when I got our jackets...steaming barf is kinda fascinating..." - PizDoff.
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    Hey, excellent thanks!

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    "I bet you're the kinda guy that would **** a person in the ass and not even have the god damn common courtesy to give him a reach around."

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    "Training = pain." - I said that.

    PizDoff when drunk: "I'm actually MOST pissed that my target for the evening got drink...then I gave her my Bullshido Canada hoodie like a gentleman because she was outside with not much on...did I mention she barfed twice when I got our jackets...steaming barf is kinda fascinating..." - PizDoff.
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    bah....so what they know what they're doing in terms of knife fighting....they just wanna make $$$, or in real money...

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    "Training = pain." - I said that.

    PizDoff when drunk: "I'm actually MOST pissed that my target for the evening got drink...then I gave her my Bullshido Canada hoodie like a gentleman because she was outside with not much on...did I mention she barfed twice when I got our jackets...steaming barf is kinda fascinating..." - PizDoff.
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