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    Kikkoman:

    Two uninstructed people wildly flailing at each other is a bad thing for at least two reasons:

    1) You can adopt all sorts of really bad habits without really thinking about it. No one is there to correct you. Turning your back on someone punching you is a really bad idea, but pretty much everyone in that video did it.

    2) Although people doing this sort of thing will eventually learn some things that are useful to them about brawling (which is sort of what this is), the braincells-lost-to-useful-things-gained ratio is badly skewed in favor of lost brain cells.

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    That was so ugly I COULD NOT finish watching it.
    yuck.

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    How do you think muay thai, jiujitsu, and boxing were created? The first guys probably weren't as good as todays top MMA fighters, but they had to learn somehow.

    What if they don't have a MMA school nearby? If your not next to a big city it's very hard to train.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kikkoman
    :new_birth :color: :new_alien :icon_geek :la:

    How do you think muay thai, jiujitsu, and boxing were created? The first guys probably weren't as good as todays top MMA fighters, but they had to learn somehow.

    What if they don't have a MMA school nearby? If your not next to a big city it's very hard to train.
    I saw no evidence of any training, did you? Also, figuratively speaking, the wheel of MT, JJ and boxing has already been invented. What is the point of painfully and slowly trying to reinvent it in a way that is not going to be nearly as effective or as refined? All I saw in those videos was the formation and reinforcement of horrible bad habits which the practitioners were obviously so proud of, they made a DVD to sell. Sorry if I don't break out into wild applause.

    I appreciate that realistic training is necessary (I think practically everyone here does) but whaling away without any direction will not really improve skill, but it will damage brains, break fingers and knuckles, hurt knees, and maybe get some people some criminal charges for little return.

    Why are you so keen to defend these guys? You're not one of them, are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kikkoman
    :new_birth :color: :new_alien :icon_geek :la:

    How do you think muay thai, jiujitsu, and boxing were created? The first guys probably weren't as good as todays top MMA fighters, but they had to learn somehow.

    What if they don't have a MMA school nearby? If your not next to a big city it's very hard to train.
    The "first guys" also likely fought and killed people as their occupation. They didn't come up with it as something to do instead of going to the mall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kikkoman
    :new_birth :color: :new_alien :icon_geek :la:

    How do you think muay thai, jiujitsu, and boxing were created? The first guys probably weren't as good as todays top MMA fighters, but they had to learn somehow.

    What if they don't have a MMA school nearby? If your not next to a big city it's very hard to train.
    You are a fucking idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bodar
    The "first guys" also likely fought and killed people as their occupation. They didn't come up with it as something to do instead of going to the mall.
    I don't think boxing was created by guys going around killing people. Probably created from ordinary fist fights and guys training together.

    And how is this any different from Bullshido throwdowns? A bunch of guys get together to fight and then put up the video on the internet.

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    This video exemplified why there is merit in TMA's. Most TMA's have been developed to dispatch people who fight at this standard, not professional fighters. I'm sure someone with a years training even in TKD could make short work of most of those guys. Of course that's not to say that someone doing MT/BJJ might wouldn't do a lot better.

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    Someone with a years training in even TKD could not make short work of most of those guys.
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