Thread: The Muay Thai Roundhouse Kick
12/26/2005 4:58pm, #51
My feeling is that not being on the ball of your foot makes for too much resistance when pivoting and puts a lot of strain on my knees. When I do low kicks I come up on the ball as I pivot and set my foot down (though not quite planting) as I'm connecting the kick. When I do high kicks, I attempt to come up and over my target and sort of drop my kick into their neck/head and being up on the ball of my foot really makes turning my hip around easier plus lends the added reach.
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12/26/2005 6:26pm, #52
Originally Posted by Knightmare
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This thread is great btw, I'm thinking of taking up muay thai after the new year (there's a good gym quite close to where I live, www.badcompany.co.uk), and a little bit of homework never hurts. Keep it coming!
12/26/2005 7:23pm, #53Originally Posted by Kidspatula
....When I do low kicks I come up on the ball as I .....
When I do high kicks, I attempt to come up and over my target and sort of drop my kick into their neck/head and being up on the ball of my foot really makes turning my hip around easier plus lends the added reach.
=Daogoro]Re: Ball of the foot pivot vs. flat foot - I lack the flexibility to do the roundhouse and get full hip rotation from a flat footed stance. ...
...there is a MT technique called .coiled dragons tail which is a high roundhouse which rises on an arc & cuts down into opponent neck....
As I have no bag though, it's hard to show on a partner allthough I think I can demo it with some high kicks. With the mid and low kicks I have to kind of be carefull to throw them in a way that won't kill my leg when he blocks. At the end of the clip I posted you can here my partner cry out a second or two after he throws his first kick and then we laugh and call it quits. That's because he hurt his leg on mine. I think he maybe he kicked too high. Here's a vidcap:
Last edited by Omar; 12/26/2005 7:27pm at .
12/26/2005 8:16pm, #54
I step out before or as I'm kicking, and I pivot to get added hip rotation. Step out at about 9o'clock, then as I kick I pivot to about 6o'clock (as seen in the picture of the woman kicking the bag). I used to only do the step without pivoting, but I find that I'm able to follow through with the kick more if I also pivot.
12/26/2005 8:59pm, #55
Special for you..next clip....me kicking air with full follow through ie. 360 degree circle. No pivot, flat foot.
It might have to wait a couple days untill I have a partner to video it. ... there's a little rotation on the ball of the foot after the kick has come around about 270 degrees but that's it.
This is possibly not very classic Muay Thai and probably shows my baguazhang influence. It's areal bagua type kick for me. I'll show you a very boring looking step around as well that actually translates into a real nice knee to the thigh.
12/26/2005 10:09pm, #56
argh, sadly my connection is crap and I get booted offline every time I try to download a clip so I haven't been able to watch the clips posted
12/26/2005 10:20pm, #57Originally Posted by Omar
This guy, for instance, is leading with his leg instead of his hip
whereas this guy is leading with his hip
EDIT: both kickers would likely rotate through with the kick, but it seems to me that the latter would have more weight behind the kick
12/26/2005 10:27pm, #58
Good eye, Kid. I was trying to think of a way to describe the "pervert thrust" (as I remember someone calling it)...but you broke it down very nicely.
This is another key difference that I've noticed with the MT Roundhouse, and I remember it distinctly because of an a session once with a friend of mine. I was throwing "chambered" roundhouses, and I couldn't understand the concept of "leading with the hips".
So...he had me "hump air" a few times to feel the idea.
12/26/2005 11:09pm, #59
The clip is only about 5 megs so try again later.
I mostly kick more like the second guy. The other thing he is demonstrating really nicely is what I mean by "cutting". See how his knee is actually angled slightly downward at impact? You can't do that kicking the way the first guy is.
I have to admit that I am not really doing the hip thing in the clip. Like darkson said, I am being a bit sloppy and that wasn't what I wanted to show with it anyways. There was a different purpose to the exercise. For that kind of hip action on a low kick I would need to add some footwork to the drill but it was only my partners second time with that exercise so I was trying to keep it simple.
12/26/2005 11:19pm, #60Originally Posted by Kidspatula
Both individuals are not trying to show exact techniques only trying to knockout their opponents out.
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