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  1. Stick is offline
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    Posted On:
    12/26/2005 3:50am

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kidspatula
    don't you do TKD? :sign12:
    For about 6 years actually, MMA built around MT, boxing, wrestling, and BJJ for about 3.

    I know how to the throw the kick, and yes I'm that touchy about people harassing me for doing TKD.
    Last edited by Stick; 12/26/2005 3:54am at .
  2. Knightmare is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kidspatula
    what?
    http://www.bullshido.net.nyud.net:80.../500/kick1.jpg

    The 80 and 90 are port numbers. They are kind of like gateways to a web server. I am huge web design nerd so I just found it hilarious...

    Ill keep my internet humor to myself from now on.
  3. Omar is offline

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    btw,

    Kidspatula's pic on post number 37 didn't show up when I was logged on at work so I have to take back what I said. Her hands are in the right place. It's the only pic on this thread so far that shows what I would consider proper hand placement for a roundhouse kick.

    http://www.bullshido.net.nyud.net:80.../500/kick1.jpg

    Also:

    Disregard the shitty foot placement/not being on the ball of my foot (I was tired =P)
    While I agree that the foot placement is off I don't agree about the ball of the foot. I think the foot is fine. I always kick with a flat foot. It's more natural that way and IMO makes for a "heavier" kick. It's more rooted and relaxed. It's also not really possible to "cut" downwards into the target with a kick from the ball of the foot.

    From a CMA perspective, ball of the foot on a kick = "floating"
    Fighting evil and upholding justice in blue silk pajamas baby!
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  4. Omar is offline

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    12/26/2005 8:59am

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    Well it's a shame that someone had to go and piss on this thread for some reason and get it kicked out of "strikestan" although I am still not really clear why it was kicked out. In any case, I made a clip for y'all:

    http://s35.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3...20SOJ31IOY2BJS

    This is part of a kicking drill that I like. I think I'm going to just throw it up here first and comment on it later. I'd rather see what people make of it before I explain anything. It's pretty straightforward but I still am always surprised by what people say.
    Fighting evil and upholding justice in blue silk pajamas baby!
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    http://youtube.com/watch?v=6Uepo9ahg-M

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  5. DARKSON is offline
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    Posted On:
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    Looks like the guy knows what he is doing. Not exactly a formal class. Looks like he was a little sloppy because he was working with a noob.
    "The next one I will take will pay for my loss. Someone has to pay!" ~ The Axe Murderer
  6. Omar is offline

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    The noob being the guy on the right?

    And sloppy where?

    I'm particularly glad for your comments. I agree with everything you said but I would still like to hear what you thought was sloppy.
    Fighting evil and upholding justice in blue silk pajamas baby!
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  7. DARKSON is offline
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    12/26/2005 10:16am

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    Yes noob on the right. Looks like he wasn't trying very hard to maintain his balance and he drops his hands between kicks.
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  8. Omar is offline

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    Edit:

    nevermind.

    I still want to wait to see what other people think before I give any more background on the clip. Thanks for your comments though.
    Fighting evil and upholding justice in blue silk pajamas baby!
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    12/26/2005 2:14pm


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    Well...I guess "Technique/Tactics" is a better place than Trollshido.

    Thanks for the pics and the input to everyone that posted between yesterday and today. Once I get to my desk tomorrow morning, I'll go through and edit in all the great info you guys provided, and that clip will be linked in as well (thanks Omar!).

    Also, I'd like to remove all the pics of unknown fighters throwing the kicks in my first thread, and edit is pics of Bullshido members kicking. So, if you've got em...flaunt em!

    Thanks again for the great feedback.
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    12/26/2005 4:39pm


     Style: MT (no, not "empty")

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omar

    While I agree that the foot placement is off I don't agree about the ball of the foot. I think the foot is fine. I always kick with a flat foot. It's more natural that way and IMO makes for a "heavier" kick. It's more rooted and relaxed. It's also not really possible to "cut" downwards into the target with a kick from the ball of the foot.

    From a CMA perspective, ball of the foot on a kick = "floating"



    Re: Ball of the foot pivot vs. flat foot - I lack the flexibility to do the roundhouse and get full hip rotation from a flat footed stance. It feels like my knees will explode if i force it. OTOH Bas Rutten, Peter Aerts, and Mirko CroCop are all proponents of flat flooted kicking.

    As far as your "no cutting downward on the pivot", there is a MT technique called .coiled dragons tail which is a high roundhouse which rises on an arc & cuts down into opponent neck. To get the height for the arc requires risingup high on the ball of the foot and pivoting. Of course, i may be misunderstanding your meaning of "cutting down" and most of the kicks i do which cut down are low/leg kicks which dont require a balll of the foot pivot.


    And now i realize we havent even touched on raising the heel.
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