Counter kicking

**DCS** · Posted On: 12/27/2005 6:15pm

Originally Posted by Dai Tenshi

Assume you and your opponent are both standing with a left lead.

My opponent throws a right round kick- his rear leg, power kick'n- in this instance I step my right leg forward and to my right so that I am walking both into my opponent and to his left- away from the kick. The left leg follows my step and just kicks solid into the opponent's standing leg; if he does not fall you should be in good position to follow with a right cross or elbow depending upon the distance.

Aternative target at short distance:

Aim to the standing leg's ankle in a sweeping/hooking way.

See video (time 03:55)

**j416to** · Posted On: 12/27/2005 6:38pm

Hey Omar....Great clip!

And that technique makes a lot of sense. Definitely the way to go, for low kicks. Much quicker!

**Omar** · Posted On: 12/27/2005 6:55pm

I've been describing that drill online here for a couple years now but no one ever seemed to quite get what I meant. I just finnaly got around to making a clip a couple says ago. I had posted it on the "Muay Thai Kicking Thread" in relation to yet another debate about the relative merits of throwing the hand back vs. keeping both hands up when you kick.

I was thinking of it here not only from your comment but also from Tai Denshi's comment about having trouble blocking hands partly due to his poor vision I imagine. One thing I try to demonstrate with this drill is that you don't need to see the counterpunch. It always comes to the same place. It's pretty much the only usefull place to punch someone mid kick. Just acclimate yourself to putting your hand right there each time.

There's more to that drill and it's only about a 1/3 of the whole thing, kind of dumbed down because my partner was still just getting the hang of it. I don't know if you can hear him whelp out in pain right after we switch sides and he kicks me with kind of poor form. *crack* That's why I was taught to never kick up from the ground but always horizontally or even downwards.

edit: I forgot to say "thanks. glad you liked it." :5cool:

**Red Elvis** · Posted On: 12/27/2005 9:40pm

Originally Posted by j416to

This is not the easiest counter. This counter is two moves, the step to the right, and then the cut kick. Both must be completed correctly, otherwise you end up getting kicked. The shin check is the easier counter, because it's only one move. The shin block neutralizes the kick, then you can do whatever you want after that, return with a punch or a kick.

Good point. I mostly get these with my rear kick when my opponent telegraphs their lead kick. I also don't step as much as I should with these cut kicks to beat them to it which reduces my power. The shin block is definetely easier.

**Red Elvis** · Posted On: 12/27/2005 9:42pm

Originally Posted by Omar

Too slow IMO.

Better to try and ingrain the habit in this clip:

http://s35.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3...20SOJ31IOY2BJS

I know it's not a counterkick but if you are countering low kicks it's just more efficient than a 1-2 thing and easier to learn than cut kicking a low kick.

****... Isn't working for some reason.

grumble grumble

**Omar** · Posted On: 12/29/2005 7:15am

Not working? What's to not work with yousendit. I tried putfile for permanancy but "due to frquent abuse......in your country." No putfile in China anymore.

Here's another clip.

http://s22.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0...82Q74OUYE1JNLW

Sorry about the crappy quality of the kicks I am cutting but still, it's a hell of a lot better than trying to describe it in words. This is "cut kicking". The timing is tricky but it kind of highlights why you shouldn't bring your knee up too high when you block. Ok, I know he's kicking and not blocking but for gods sakes use your imagination a little. Do I have to make a clip of everything.

edit:

Red Elvis,

I think I got it uploaded but I still can't view it since putfile is not available in China so I can't confirm but try this link:

http://www.putfile.com/bailewen

And then click on "kicking drill". See if that works.

**Cullion** · Posted On: 12/29/2005 7:52am

Originally Posted by Omar

Too slow IMO.

Better to try and ingrain the habit in this clip:

http://s35.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3...20SOJ31IOY2BJS

I know it's not a counterkick but if you are countering low kicks it's just more efficient than a 1-2 thing and easier to learn than cut kicking a low kick.

Oh my Omar. Did you just sneak in Wing Chun 'bong gerk' under the Bullshido radar ?

**Omar** · Posted On: 12/29/2005 8:09am

Technically no but it's hard for me to do anything without infusing it with at least a little southern shaolin.

Check back on my other thread by the way. The link is fixed. You watched the wrong clip. Please delete the other one from your post. I can't make you but I'd appreciate it. Hopefully someone other posters will still have a chance to wonder what's up with the clip that was supposed to be in the first post.

Later.