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Thread: Judo Or Bjj?
1/03/2006 5:31pm, #41Originally Posted by UpaLumpa
Secondly what do you mean by strawmen ? I'm not up to speed with American 'lingo'.
Thirdly I was just stating how Judo can be beneficial to MMA training and should not be discounted by any means. Just thought I'd give my reasons for why I chose Judo. I can't think of any other martial art that gives as much value for money.Hannibal: The sworn enemy of dishonest politicians, source of entertainment on Bullshido and newly appointed Office Linebacker. Terry Tait ain't got **** on me !!!!
1/03/2006 5:43pm, #42
If you're interested in MMA competition, I'd say find a place that trains no-gi BJJ. However I've heard that gi BJJ is good to start with, because it forces you to maintain good posture, which really helps your no-gi game. But honestly, they're two different worlds, gi BJJ is all about grips, where no-gi is much more about the scramble.
Even with all that, no-gi BJJ isn't the same as the MMA groundgame (no punches, knees, upkicks etc.) but it's a good foundation.
1/03/2006 5:43pm, #43Originally Posted by KumaOni
But still, it's not like you'll have wasted your time with Judo.
1/03/2006 5:44pm, #44
Originally Posted by Hannibal
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1/03/2006 5:45pm, #45
Off topic: LOL at UmpLumpa's quote.
When I told my new girlfriend I took Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, she was calling it Zhoo-Zitsu for at least a week!
At which I teased her mercilessly.
1/03/2006 6:16pm, #46Originally Posted by Hannibal
1/04/2006 12:57pm, #47
This is a no-brainer from start to finish.
If you want a ground game - it's BJJ all the way. All else being equal, that's what BJJ is all about. Forget about everything else.
Simply put, Judo is about throwing and stand-up grappling. In this field, it can't be beat. BJJ is a distillation of judo in the ground game; ergo if you want a ground game play BJJ.
You will tend to find that it is the newer judoka (usu below 1st Dan) that have an inferiority complex about BJJ and make all sorts of excuses. Well, this is something that judoka have to get over or they will definetely end up playing second fiddle in the ground fighting stakes.
Your average judo coach will not have a polished or strategic ground game, nor should he have. He can probably fight effectively and defend competently - but that is a million miles away from having the understanding that a BJJ coach has.
In the same way that your average BJJ coach isn't a throwing god unless he has a judo background. Sure, he can do the pick ups and probably a few hip and shoulder throws with a degree of effectiveness.
It isn't how much a judo coach or bjj coach can beat a beginner (or even advanced student) at their secondary skill - it's the deeper understanding and experience that you are after. The knowldge of combinations and counters as well as timing is often what is missing of you go to the "wrong" source to learn grappling.
1/04/2006 6:28pm, #48Originally Posted by Beneath ContemptHannibal: The sworn enemy of dishonest politicians, source of entertainment on Bullshido and newly appointed Office Linebacker. Terry Tait ain't got **** on me !!!!
1/04/2006 6:29pm, #49Originally Posted by Hannibal
Originally Posted by Beneath Contempt
1/04/2006 6:44pm, #50Originally Posted by DreadnoughtHannibal: The sworn enemy of dishonest politicians, source of entertainment on Bullshido and newly appointed Office Linebacker. Terry Tait ain't got **** on me !!!!