Thread: Kosen Judo Rear Mount
12/22/2005 5:27pm, #31Originally Posted by JohnnyS
Also comes around to the fact that Judo class is at most 1/2 newaza and BJJ class is almost always a great deal more.
The position in the picture is not bad as long as the person uncrosses the ankles if he feels the lock.
I have never heard the Japanese say maximum results with minimum effort stuff. I usually hear that it is power and technique applied precisely.
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12/22/2005 5:40pm, #32Originally Posted by MONGO
The time you spend apologizing for crappy techniques could be spent learning better ones.
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12/22/2005 10:55pm, #33
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"Look, either you're too dumb to get that Aesopian was pointing out a flaw in Judo's grappling game"
I never saw that be applied, so I dont think its a major Judo technique rather then a personal thing from the one performing it.
Either way, when you have so little time on the ground you tend to have a more agressive and fast ne waza wich unfourtunatly means submission before position, or at the same time, this leads to techniques that are not perfectly applied because there is no time for the details, wich means some times you got to establish your position any way you can, even if you risk beeing submited.
12/22/2005 11:00pm, #34
Which is a major flaw with Judo's training focus in many schools. It's comparable to TKD point sparring teaching you to keep your hands low because you don't have to worry about getting punched in the face.
12/22/2005 11:09pm, #35
There's certainly something to be said for standing up and trying to run away at the appropriate time in a fight, but being inside a triangle choke is not one of those times.
12/23/2005 12:47am, #36
Originally Posted by MONGO
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12/23/2005 1:02am, #37
That's the thing though, using your hands to setup the lock leaves you rather undefended for the choke. Hell I have crossed my legs on people specifically to see if they'd bring a hand away from their neck to try and setup ankle lock, once the hand was away and I had my arm just a little more under their chin it was a simple matter of uncrossing my legs no matter how they grabbed them with one hand. Never mind if the dumb son of a bitch reached down with both hands, that brings his shoulders away from his neck and leaves him about as open as it gets, short of having him just his chin into the air.
Giving someone what they want is often the path to fucking them in the ass, true in so many aspects of life.
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12/23/2005 1:54am, #38
Baiting someone is what it's all about as long as your opponent is thinking one step behind you...or slower than you.
12/23/2005 1:59am, #39
If I gather my opponent has the presence of mind to apply that ankle lock without bringing his arm down- can also cross my legs to bait his arm down and get it under one of my hooks, which only drives my figurative penis deeper into his rectum- I don't try it; it's one of those things you can do, and by the time you've got rear mount with your hooks in you may have figured out whether or not it's worth the risk.
12/23/2005 3:01am, #40Originally Posted by AesopianThere are no wrong threats, only wrong answers. (Strategy game truism)