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  1. Ged is offline

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     Style: Boxing, Cop Den Do, BJJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pagan
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    So can you please describe to us the training methods Kuk Sool Won employs in its school that makes it so effective ? What makes it special ? What have you besides one clip of one fighter to make your point ?

    And did that fighter have anymore fights ? What is his fight record that says he Dominated ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pagan
    Countering facts and evidence with insults is the mark of a man in denial. Is it so hard to admit that your sports are not as reality based as you once believed?

    Sadly the UFC has too many rules, and requires gloves now. In the old days with the lack of rules, many classical styles such as Kenpo (kieth hackney), Ninjitsu (Steve Jenum) and Kuk Sool Won dominated the UFC.

    Promoters added rules and gloves due to infuence by the boxing industry which is controlled by the mafia.
    If you think anybody whose name isn't Royce Gracie "dominated" the early days of the UFC, you're just silly.

    Also, I just watched UFC 3. Steve Jennum was an alternate who won the competition on the basis of being called in for the final match and fighting fresh against an opponent who'd already fought several matches. He may be a good fighter, but he also caught one hell of a lucky break.
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     Style: Kuk Sool Won

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    I would attend a throwdown if there were not rules against the use of pressure points.
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     Style: Kuk Sool Won

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    Steve Jenum defeated a heavy weight professional boxer BEFORE going on to fight in the championship match. He was not fresh.

    Watch your UFC 3 tape again. If you think BJJ is the only style that works then UFC 3 should prove you wrong. A Taekwondo practioner(Kimo) severly injured Mr. Gracie's back, forcing him to withdrawl from the tournament.
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    Posted On:
    12/21/2005 9:57pm

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     Style: Kyokushin, other stuff

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    Because NO boxer is used to dealing with groin strikes......

    And because groin strikes do more than just cause pain, they actually cause debilitating physical damage too. Oh. No they don't. Having won fights after taking full contact knees to the nuts I can vouch for that.

    Throwdowns have negotiable rules. I'm sure you will find someone who is happy to allow you to use pressure points.
    As long as you are prepared to allow punching to the head.
    What else did Kimo study other than TKD? See if you know as much as you think you do.

    Retard.

    Analytical perspective on boxing:

    Boxing is a specifically focused martial art that produces a limited breadth of skills developed to an incredible depth. Boxings strengths are the best hands in martial arts, excellent foot work, exceptional conditioning and toughness, and extremely alive training. Boxers excel beyond what their limited skill set would imply due to their footwork and no nonsense approach, which also means boxers are very good at integrating other fighting styles. Boxing has been proven in thousands of street fights and is a chosen martial art of doormen and others who have to fight for a living.

    Analytical persoective of TKD:

    TKD is a kicking style that has degenerated from a functional past. It teaches poor application of kicking technique from a full contact of self defence perspective, although the basic technical skills can be transferred with correct training. It makes many claims to effectiveness but when called upon to demonstrate said skills repeatedly falls short of par. TKD skilled stylists can largely be explained by the size of the TKD practitioner base, representing naturally talented fighters within the normal structure. TKD has not been able to show an ability to skill a poor fighter to a competent level. TKD and related stylists make hundreds of ridiculous statements to justify their poor practice, especially regarding the laughable hands down fighting stance. The fact that this only evolved recently in their style, and the combative TKD that was originally in place in the 1950s taught students to keep hands up is ignored. TKD stylists tend to be igorant of the gaps in their styles until educated by force. At this time they typically either cease to be TKD stylists, or retreat into fantasy land and develop chi skills.

    Let me know if there are any Kuk Sool Won schools in New Zealand. I'll fight a challenge under any full contact rules they want ASAP.
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    Posted On:
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     Style: Kyokushin, other stuff

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    Kimo - lists his styles as Freestyle and Jiu-Jitsu:

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     Style: Kuk Sool Won

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    I see your ignorance. A knee to the balls is nothing. The knee is a WIDE area surface. Kuk sool won stylists would use a small area surface such as the tip of the thumb.

    The fighters who hit you in the balls did not understnad correct groin pressure points and striking surfaces.
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     Style: Kuk Sool Won

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vile
    Kimo - lists his styles as Freestyle and Jiu-Jitsu:

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    He was forced to train in other styles due to the addition of rules. Back in UFC 3 he listed his style as Taekwondo.

    Read my previous posts on the mafia and their influence on the rules of MMA. This forced out classic traditional styles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pagan
    Steve Jenum defeated a heavy weight professional boxer BEFORE going on to fight in the championship match.
    And who would that be?
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