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  1. UpaLumpa is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aesopian
    London is a grip from guard where you have an overhook on an arm (so it's in your armpit) then reach behind your knee and clasp your hands together. It puts a lot of pressure on their shoulder and locks in the position. It's good for setting up many attacks from guard, and it works right into rubber guard. Photo:

    Thanks, the worst thing about Bravo is his need to use names that already have another meaning.
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    http://youtube.com/w/bravokillsshage...=eddie%20Bravo

    heres a vid of eddie bravo doing the rubber gaurd.
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    Ok here's a question. I rolled with this guy a few times, and ran into a problem I've never run into before while using rubber guard. The guy has really broad shoulders, and a, um, big head. So let's say I'm using rubber guard with my left leg. I can manage to get from mission control to the New York, but now somehow, with his particular body dimensions (and he seems to have a pretty strong neck too), I cannot for the life of me get my right arm to the left side of his head.

    As such, I have no omoplata, no gogoplata, no invisible collar, no nothing except for triangle setups. And because he knows now that I'm pretty much only going for triangles, he anticipates it and ends up passing me every time. I need other options from this situation, anybody know any?
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    I would lighten up on the rubber guard at that point so I could turn my hips out freely and go for the omoplata more dynamically, instead of trying to manuallly pull my foot into it. Let go of the mission control grip and just push on his head.
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    How often do you self-fellate Aesopian?
  6. Cassius is online now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aesopian
    I would lighten up on the rubber guard at that point so I could turn my hips out freely and go for the omoplata more dynamically, instead of trying to manuallly pull my foot into it. Let go of the mission control grip and just push on his head.
    Omoplata is all about pressure and the spin, baby.

    THE SPIN!
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    Omoplata is all about pressure and the spin
    Agreed.
  8. MuKen is offline

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    2/07/2006 3:47pm


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aesopian
    I would lighten up on the rubber guard at that point so I could turn my hips out freely and go for the omoplata more dynamically, instead of trying to manuallly pull my foot into it. Let go of the mission control grip and just push on his head.
    Thanks, I'll try that.
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    What are peoples' experience with the Invisible Collar? I tried applying it on a friend of mine without resistance, just to test it out, and he tapped pretty quickly and said it felt like a choke. Bravo's book says it's just a pain move (jabbing elbow into collar bone) and I don't see how it could be otherwise, unless I was pushing my forearm into the side of his throat inadvertantly. Does my friend just have a low pain tolerance, or is there more to this position than a simple pain hold?
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    i have eddie bravo's book. i actually laughed out loud when i read here that he had even more names for other moves like "london" and "meathook".

    i've been experimenting quite a lot with the rubber guard and with some of the half guard stuff, especially using "the lockdown" (chuckle).

    but in the end the rubber guard is just another position to me.

    edit- oh, and has anybody seen his video, "the twister"? it's such a cack.
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