-

- Join Date
- Nov 2005
- Location
- in conclusion, MMA sucks.
- Posts
- 158
Posted On:
12/21/2005 8:47am -
You are in a lot of trouble.
Achievements:- Join Date
- Feb 2004
- Posts
- 1,580
- Points
- 5,654


Posted On:
12/21/2005 9:56am--
i apologize for speaking in general terms rather than bjj-specific ones, but i might have a little insight on this. in my current day job, where i design and write simulation-based software tutorials, i've had to pick up sort of a practical, working knowledge of instructional design on the fly.
as aesopian implies, concept and application complement each other. the important is to ensure both are clearly defined and easily communicable. when designing a tutorial or lesson, i generally start with concept: what something is, and how it can be exploited. then i'll move to context, giving an example of when it might be used to flesh out the concept and make a transition to the application, the steps necessary to execute the technique.
when working with new students in the gym, this process is more or less reversed: "you know that kick you've been doing on the bag for two months? it can be useful when a guy is moving in on you. here, i'm going to move in on you, and you do it. you can also do it when you want to move in on a guy -- you come in behind it. do it to me. good, now refine it (this way)." etc. after you've effectively communicated something like this, or, i'm assuming, beginning bjj techniques, you can bridge to follow-up moves and/or extrapolate the basic concept to talk about strategy.
in my (admittedly limited) experience, both behind a desk and in the ring, making sure you include concept, context and technique during instruction greatly enhances knowledge retention and encourages learners to start looking at their training with a useful level of abstraction -- i.e. they start developing a better view of the bigger picture, develop strategical thinking skills and learn to apply specific techniques in different contexts.
the important thing is to have concept, context and application clearly defined in your own mind, so they can easily be communicated. it's also important, in my opinion, not to "marry" a technique or application to a single context during explanation (unless of course you're demonstrating a technique that's only used in a very specific way, and this would most likely apply only to an advanced student).
Originally Posted by Hedgehogey
Originally Posted by Kidspatula
-
Mostly, I just sit here. Mostly.
Achievements:- Join Date
- Sep 2003
- Location
- Washington DC. USA
- Posts
- 7,950
- Points
- 13,287



Posted On:
12/21/2005 12:40pm--
I've only done a bit of teaching myself, but when I am given free reign or asked for ideas on what to go over I tend to think about something I've noticed in previous classes, problems people have had. If I'm unable to address a spcific problem, I have two "lesson plans" that I'm particularly fond of.
Start of with something simple like kimura/hammer-lock/paint-brush from side control or mount: something even the newbs can nail. Then show how the same technique can be applied from numerous positions and directions, I show it to them from say mount, guard, half guard, and standing and encourage them to look for it in the various positions they find themselves in rolling. I suppose this is more of a concept approach, the concept of one technique. Newbs love it cause they can just work it where they need to, basically just keep practicing the technique and maybe try a new position or direction, and it gets the more experienced people thinking and trying new things as well.
My favorite is just to do a submission combination for the night. Always telling people to think of flowing from one sub to the other, not wasting effort on one that's already been defended. I guess this is a more technique based plan, but it is all chained together to drill into people's heads the need to transition and see openings for new subs.
So I suppose I just have a particular point or principal in mind and give it to people with a healthy dose of techniques. I really don't like having a lesson conssist of "here's this technique, do it, ok now here's this completely unrelated technique", things should connect and go together, build on each other if possible; if the last thing you learn in practice can reinforce the first thing you learned that night, I think you're better off for it. -
Achievements:- Join Date
- Aug 2002
- Location
- Melbourne, Australia
- Posts
- 1,139
- Points
- 8,409


Posted On:
12/21/2005 4:27pm--
I think you're exactly right. It has to be both. If you just teach mechanics you're making it harder for the person to see the bigger picture. If you only look at the bigger picture, you'll miss the important details that are the beauty of BJJ.
My instructor, John Will, is the best instructor I've ever trained with. Every lesson he teaches I come away with both a concept and techniques, as well as being inspired to find my own way with that concept. The worst classes/seminars I've seen have been where an instructor teaches disparate techniques with no connection between the technique and no underlying concept or theme to help remember the class. -
My grandfather's high ball glass
Achievements:- Join Date
- Apr 2005
- Location
- Austin, TX
- Posts
- 8,052
- Points
- 21,984




Posted On:
12/21/2005 4:42pm--
Mastery of any technique will only come when the practitioner understands the underlying concepts. While I agree that the two should be taught together I have often observed that an explanation of the concept first benefits the students greatly. When you combine this explanation with a series of related techniques, even if you only drill one or two, the students seem to absorb more knowledge. To be clear, while my instructor occasionally asks me to teach class, I base my observations on watching him teach.
If you do not test yourself against the unknown, how can you truly know if the tools you possess actually work? -
nuthin' ta f*ck with
Achievements:- Join Date
- Dec 2002
- Location
- ORYGUN
- Posts
- 8,325
- Points
- 12,564

Posted On:
12/24/2005 2:52am--
Totally agree. When my instructor shows the many permutations that are available from an initial arm-drag (for example) I gain a sort of recursive knowledge that is less attainable through static drilling of just one technique.
Also, if a student is shown several concept-related techniques such as blocking a foot/knee/elbow/arm for a sweep or roll he can instantly make the connection and his or her brain can start figuring out a way to apply that concept or at least manifest the awareness of how and when the tactic can be employed in general rolling.Last edited by Moleculo; 12/24/2005 2:58am at .



Reply With Quote




















Light Heavyweight
Posted On:
12/21/2005 8:32am
Aesopian.com
Teaching BJJ - Concepts vs Techniques