12/15/2005 7:41pm, #11Originally Posted by Skepti-Claus“We are surrounded by warships and don’t have time to talk. Please pray for us.” — One Somali Pirate.
12/16/2005 9:17am, #12
I would like more pictures/explanation between frame 2 and 3.
How is he getting to positon 3? just falling over?
12/16/2005 9:29am, #13
when you drop to your back you kinda just hang on and the guy follows you downIn weightlifting, I don't think sudden, uncontrolled urination should automatically disqualify you.
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12/16/2005 9:36am, #14
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I once saw a guy win a competition combat with something like that, pretty sneaky.
12/16/2005 9:40am, #15
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12/16/2005 10:57am, #16
It's a white belt-level technique where I train. We had one of our black belts win a sub grappling match on an MMA card with this move in 7 seconds. That was the time it took him to get across the ring and clench with the guy.
12/16/2005 12:04pm, #17Originally Posted by NutCracker
12/17/2005 2:07am, #18
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Dave showed us this move and just called it a flying arm bar. I guess the subjectiveness of flying depends on the acrobatic skills of the person performing this move. I tried this move without fully understanding what went into it, and landed squarely on my back. Ouch. But now that I understand it better (not because of this thread), I want to give it another try. One of the guys at my gym can do it, and he barely does any grappling, ever. Oh yeah, and always try it on someone bigger if you can. We also learned flying heel hook and flying triangle that day, but the flying heel hook is the only one I can do.
This move is also demonstrated in Carlos Flete & Carricarte's Standing Armbars video. They also have a cross grip variation that works with gi's.
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12/17/2005 2:38am, #19
Yeah, I can only do the flying heel hook too... I like this one though, it's like I could fake a flying armbar or something. I'll have to try it."Prison is for rapists, thieves and murderers. If you lock someone up for smoking a plant that makes them happy, you're the fucking criminal." - Joe Rogan
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12/17/2005 3:23am, #20
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I wouldn't consider this technique **as shown** as a high percentage move. The notion you can just pull someone down as depicted from frame 2 to frame 3 is actually pretty difficult against anybody with a decent base or any grappling experience. There is also way too much transition time from standing to the ground with the knee just tucked into the hip like that. (Note: This is not a flying armbar).
This technique actually works alot better as a counter to a failed hip throw (insert judo name here) where your opponent is actually taking you to the ground. The difference being they are putting themselves into this position as opposed to you trying to force them into it.
Try it this way... Commit to the hip throw by turning into it so that you are at a 90 degree angle and leave yourself noticeably off balance to the point they would almost have to hold you up. The most natural counter at this point is for your opponent to let gravity take it's course following you to the ground. Make sure you have the arm with a solid grip and are still tight to the opponent (so they just don't dump you) and as you come down tuck the knee in solid as shown in pic 3 and follow the rest. If you sacrifice yourself like this be sure not to overcommit to the fake throw as he can take your back.
Tough to describe but works good if your fast and have solid technique. Not sure it would work for a noob but worth a try I suppose. Balance and timing are key..
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