Non-asians will never understand Asian martial arts.

**Locu5** · Posted On: 1/17/2006 12:00pm

Really, you will need much, much thicker skin before you are ready. Read the site a bit before your next post. Get a grip. Go train.

***DerAuslander*** · Posted On: 1/17/2006 12:21pm

Asians confuse me.

**mattr** · Posted On: 1/17/2006 12:32pm

Originally Posted by Dreadnought

You keep using the word "elite". That's your false sense of empowerment talking.

That's right. But you can feel empowered by your membership, can't you?

Of course, I'm older and wiser now. I feel part of the organization I'm with, without the 'elite' falsehood.

Dreadnought, I think you may be getting me wrong... I'm just giving examples of how people can feel when they are part of a martial arts organization... I felt a sense of belonging to something truly special when I did Kung Fu as a teenager and, false or not, felt empowered at the time.

For some, this is all they require. I also think that this sort of empowerment is promoted by CMA. This is my point.

**Torakaka** · Posted On: 1/17/2006 12:57pm

Originally Posted by ImBatman

I'm glad we've established that. Now it's time to discern what your major malfunction is.

(oh noes! Another isshinryu goon!)

Being a senior member of a forum that purports to drive the BS from martial arts, I'm surprised that you still subscribe to the ignorant notion that a particular style or lineage matters beyond the very beginning of ones martial arts life. If you train hard in the basics of any style, you already have a solid foundation. If you expand your knowledge by learning from other styles and sparring with different types of people (styles, sizes), your style becomes your own - a reflection of all the experiences and drive that you bring with it.

Ok, I'm at work, so I have a no-narrative policy. Stop trolling and insulting other members' styles unless you can back it up, if that's not too much to ask.

teehee silly noob

**hl1978** · Posted On: 1/17/2006 1:00pm

Originally Posted by Kidspatula

teehee silly noob

Yet you still fail to answer any arguments and resort to retorts rather than reason?

Why is that?

**Torakaka** · Posted On: 1/17/2006 1:39pm

Originally Posted by hl1978

Yet you still fail to answer any arguments and resort to retorts rather than reason?

Why is that?

what? And take you dweebs seriously? Pfft

**Locu5** · Posted On: 1/17/2006 1:40pm

Careful. He does have "some wrestling"; so maybe he doesn't suck completely.

**hl1978** · Posted On: 1/17/2006 1:52pm

Originally Posted by Kidspatula

what? And take you dweebs seriously? Pfft

By what measure have you deemed yourself, a self admitted newcomer to MT, Boxing, BJJ, to have a more valid opinion than myself?

Why do you refuse to provide a reasonable argument when your beliefs/world view has been challenged? I am more than willing to challenge my own beliefs, be accepting of other opinions, and at the end of the day, learn something from it

I feel the following lyrics from Metallica is appropriate for this situation.

"They say the empty can rattles the most
The sound of your voice must soothe you
Hearing only what you want to hear
And knowing only what you’ve heard"

**hl1978** · Posted On: 1/17/2006 1:53pm

Originally Posted by Locu5

Careful. He does have "some wrestling"; so maybe he doesn't suck completely.

Yeah some wrestling will be replaced with judo soon, I haven't wrestled competively in more than 12 years.

I remember some of it, but not all, so I in no way consider myself an authoritative source on wrestling technique, however I am not a total noob to ground work.