1/16/2006 6:22pm, #431Originally Posted by Jez
Consider two jabs.
A sloppy jab thrown by a crappy boxer in an amateur match. It sucks, ok?
A fast, stiff jab a mugger users to knock out an innocent person on the street.
Which is the better jab? The mugger's.
As a martial artist, you must be able to look objectively at the two techniques and say, the mugger's jab is better. If you're jab is lacking, then you should emulate the mugger's technique.
NO MATTER HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THE MUGGER'S MORALS, you should be able to say to yourself as a martial artist, I want to have a jab like that.
That's why some on this forum could not give a **** about the co-training of morals and martial arts - it doesn't improve their martial skill. Who cares how they develop as a person? Let them answer that question on their own.
1/16/2006 6:31pm, #432
Originally Posted by meng_mao
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Thankyou for your insight.
Obviously i have been trained and brought up differently in martial arts to some people in this forum.
But i take this as an opportunity to learn.
I admit that you are right in this aspect, and i am wrong (to an extent)
what is your personal opinion of a persons attitude and personality developing alongside martial arts?
1/16/2006 6:49pm, #433Originally Posted by Jez
Originally Posted by Dreadnought
1/16/2006 6:56pm, #434
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I'm guessing the Western Europeans got wasted.
1/16/2006 7:34pm, #435Originally Posted by Jez
1/16/2006 7:44pm, #436
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I'd just like to see the many different martial arts advertised correctly. It annoys me when a particular art is put forward as the best form of self-defence, or a complete art, or the most powerful. I think what most non-Asians understand about Asian martial arts is that they are not always fit for purpose... that purpose being what you want from the art. I would assume that the majority of westerners take up a martial art so that they will be able to defend themselves... in which case, MOST martial arts are definately not fit for purpose.
It helps if people know what they want from a martial art. If you wish to take up a physical art form steeped in rich cultural significance that will bestow you with powerful skills of physical expression and some appreciation of fighting concepts, then a CMA would suit you. So what is it you want? Fitness? Strength? Flexibility? A sense of belonging to an elite family? Practice your Kung Fu, your Karate, your Aikido etc.
Do you want to be able to defend yourself in the street? Okay, forget your Kung Fu, your Karate, your Aikido etc. Get a self-defence class. But it's a tough one. There are so many **** excuses for self-defence out there. You will probably need to check out loads of classes before you find a decent one.
Then, of course, there's the sure fire bet... MMA. Cross-training. Muay Thai. Keysi. Boxing. Judo. BJJ. Hard contact sparring, 'alive' training, reading Geoff Thompson. Following Jeet Kune Do Concepts and absorbing what is useful. Whatever.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that all systems have something to offer as we all have different requirements. I just wish there was more honesty and clarity in the martial arts world so that we can all choose systems that are truly fit for purpose.
1/16/2006 9:02pm, #437Originally Posted by mattr
A sense of belonging to an elite family? Practice your Kung Fu, your Karate, your Aikido etc.
1/16/2006 10:23pm, #438
Originally Posted by Kidspatula
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I dont study WC, but had the opportunity to workout with some guys who did a couple years back. Picked up a couple of worthwhile drills. There is definatly some merit to the style. I did aikido for a semester in college. I learned how to fall and do breakfalls reasonably well, hence I learned something so it did not totally "suck". Could I have learned how to fall and roll in judo, BJJ or any other art, of course, but it was a concept still worth learning. Despite its other faults, that art is not totally useless for that reason. Actually after doing kendo, a lot of the techniques actually make sense, but dont seem to transition as well for empty handed techniques.
Are you basing that opinion after sparring WC practicioners? Working out with any practitioners? Attending a class? Or purely from watching videos, or following the prevaling opinion of others on Bullshido?
I base my opinions on firsthand experience, I can only hope that others do the same.
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1/16/2006 10:31pm, #439Originally Posted by hl1978
Isshin Ryu sucks too, now you go eat a turd aswell.Ranked #9 internationally at 118lbs by WIKBA http://www.womenkickboxing.com/wikba...rch%202009.htm
1/16/2006 10:31pm, #440Originally Posted by Jez
The samurai executed and cut down unarmed citizens. The concept of bushido was a development to prevent the rampant violence that the samurai were commiting in the later years after the warring states period. The learned warrior concept was basically inclined toward future leaders and the ruling elite, the common samurai did not have much education in such matters other than refining their skills and attitudes to make themselves better killers. That was their job and they did it well.
And the higher meaning stuff is for older people who have spent 20 years training hard. Don't try to circumvent the system by turning into a hippy at a young age, it will ruin the years that you are supposed to be training hard.
Martial arts are not equal, Wing Tsun could have been a great martial art if it wasn't mutated by a bunch a sissys that were adverse to fighting. Muay Thai and the like have evolved from competition and are well suited to their arenas.
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