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  1. Lohff is offline
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    12/16/2005 11:55am


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    Is there no legal liability when this guy assists a sick person in dieing because they believed his **** train? I know the guy is morally corrupt, it just seems like at the very least he could incur some civil lawsuits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lohff
    Is there no legal liability when this guy assists a sick person in dieing because they believed his **** train? I know the guy is morally corrupt, it just seems like at the very least he could incur some civil lawsuits.
    These products and these statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease.
    You can't make people smarter. You can expose them to information, but your responsibility stops there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PirateJon
    These products and these statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease.
    The best thing about this statement is that first they say how effective the product is at treating something and then whammo: by the way, don't use this the way we just told you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PirateJon
    These products and these statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease.
    Part of the problem is that, (and this is off the top of my head, for what it's worth) is that Congress, during the '90s, weakened the FDA's ability to regulate non-drug products.

    That is, alternative, "natural" remedies" - the things that fall under nutritional supplements and the like.

    As I remember it, the Senator from Iowa, Harkin, got a burr up his butt about bees wax, or pollen, or some such, as natural cure for allergies. So he pushed through a lot of alternative medicine bills.

    About this time, there was a push by the industry to lighten oversight of nutritional supplements - there was a commercial showing a SWAT team breaking into a house, then Mel Gibson popped up, saying something like "it's only vitamins".

    So now we have, on one side, the highly regulated but overprices pharmacy industry, and on the other the cheaperbut unregulated alternative medicine gang.

    There are some, honest and caring, practitioners from both sides that kinda meet in the middle, but there's also more leeway for rip-offs to both directions.
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