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  1. Virus is offline
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    Judo Kata.

    Does anyone here do Judo kata? I was browsing judoinfo.com and the kata section has a lot of stuff not normally associated with modern judo such as atemi, weapon defenses and standing joint locks. How common is the practice of katas in modern Judo schools?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virus
    Does anyone here do Judo kata? I was browsing judoinfo.com and the kata section has a lot of stuff not normally associated with modern judo such as atemi, weapon defenses and standing joint locks. How common is the practice of katas in modern Judo schools?
    I occasionally do kata. As far as I am aware, it is not very common in the UK or in Norway.
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    i think one of the kata is a requirement for brownbelt or possibly blackbet, its a throwing kata. i havent seen any of the guys at my club doing weapon defences or standing joint locks (we mention them in passing sometimes in training, but i'm not sure its part of the carriculum)
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    I see some of the blackbelts at my club doing them sometimes. It's not that frequent, though.
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    Naga no kata is the first kata in Kodokan Judo. It's a throwing kata and you learn it for your black belt in most cases (and never do it again). I learned it, did it once, and have never looked back. I don't think I could get through it without prompting these days. It's kind of silly and I swear they are only there because someone threatened Kano's family or something.
    And lo, Kano looked down upon the field and saw the multitudes. Amongst them were the disciples of Uesheba who were greatly vexed at his sayings. And Kano spake: "Do not be concerned with the mote in thy neighbor's eye, when verily thou hast a massive stick in thine ass".

    --Scrolls of Bujutsu: Chapter 5 vs 10-14.
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    I am just begining Kodokan Judo. I was told that we do have to learn a few katas for testing, and I have seen a throwing kata, and a choke kata. I find that kata's help me memorize names of techniques so its not all that bad. But i'm much more interested in the competition side of it.
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    I do nage-no-kata.
    It's a requirement for shodan.
    I find it mildly usefull in some respects, I don't think I would ever start doing left uchimata if I didn't have to because of the kata. It's now my second best throw.

    Some older guys do katas when they can't randori anymore.

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    I use kata about 20-30% of practice. Not so much kata performance, but kata as a teaching tool.

    The other formal stuff - the Gokyo - is mostly techniques in isolation; the kata provides a context for technique - an idea about movement.

    So I may start with the performance of a part of kata, then work through how to apply different techniques, using the same principles as shown in the kata.

    Similarly, the Kime-no-kata has some entries into armlocks that I've found useful in MMA-style randori - but only once or twice; then my students know what's coming. But it's type of movement that's useful, not the exact performance as in kata.
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    I have never done any Judo kata. They seem like a waste of time to me.
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    "I have never done any Judo kata. They seem like a waste of time to me."

    Mick - is that because you named Hapkido as your style?

    Joke aside - Fighting judo and doing Kata are two different mindsets.
    And you won't find many athletes preparing for a big comp, fintuning their nage no kata.

    Some are challeninging to perform well and that is a process you should have tried at least once .
    I have never cared much for them, given they don't help you to win fights.
    But I was quite impressed when some Japanese Students who were guests here performed Nage No Kata - they looked brilliant.
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