Linear progression

**Aesopian** · Posted On: 12/08/2005 9:21pm

ELLL OH EL ON THIS TO ANYONE WHO HAS SEEN ME

**bwerb** · Posted On: 12/08/2005 9:25pm

You beat me to a response. LOL definitely.

***JohnnyCache*** · Posted On: 12/08/2005 9:45pm

Heh. I thought you said "Goatherd"

I was thinking you deserve style points for archaic dozens.

**gravious** · Posted On: 12/08/2005 9:51pm

Originally Posted by JohnnyCache

1) Criticize asian martial arts
2) Nuthug western martial arts only three people still practice
3) Talk about how cool it would be if a (giant/female/pcp addled) practitioner of same crashed a AMA dojo
4) Make sure the post asks no questions and presents no information.
5)
6) Profit

LOL

Does this mean we could now produce an Angry_Spastic-bot to post on his behalf (directly to Trollshido)?

**Meex** · Posted On: 12/08/2005 9:53pm

Damn. . .
I thought this thread was about progressive training methodology. .
Instead, it's about nothing.
And, getting worse.
Hmm. . .
I guess that's a linear progression.

`~/

**Tabogganwheel** · Posted On: 12/08/2005 11:26pm

Not all Asian martial arts, or at least not all schools have a linear training scheme. I don't think mine has one at all. At least we don't have belts or sashes or anything... you just progress at your own pace.

**mean_liar** · Posted On: 12/09/2005 12:26am

I think thats a feature of TCMA -- no belts, sashes, etc. Just time put in.

**Tabogganwheel** · Posted On: 12/09/2005 2:59am

The best way to judge someone is from their skill. Have a go sparr with them and usually you can get an idea of their level. Belts/sashes mean nothing, really.
An 8 year old can get a TKD black belt. Does that mean he/she could own a 200lb rugged US Navy SEAL in a 1 on 1 fight? I think not.

**Poop Loops** · Posted On: 12/09/2005 3:07am

Originally Posted by Angry_Spastic

One of the things that concerns me about learning judo or jujitsu or SPM (apart from whoring myself) is that they practise a linear standard of progression.

Asian MA = perform rote techniques to satisfactory standard, get belt, proceed
Sport MA (boxing and wrestling) = learn techniques tailored to individual, win bouts, proceed

Ethnic MA practised outside Asia:

If sport- see "Sport MA" reference.
If for T3H B4TTLEF13LD- learn techniques tailored to individual, don't get killed or crippled, return, practise refine and add techniques and so on.

:tongue3:

What do you mean by "ethnic MA outside of Asia"? The only popular "ethnic" , non-Asian MA that I know of is either Capoeira or wrestling, if you want to count Egypt.

**Beatdown Richie** · Posted On: 12/09/2005 4:39am

Originally Posted by Angry_Spastic

One of the things that concerns me about learning judo or jujitsu or SPM (apart from whoring myself) is that they practise a linear standard of progression.

Asian MA = perform rote techniques to satisfactory standard, get belt, proceed
Sport MA (boxing and wrestling) = learn techniques tailored to individual, win bouts, proceed

Actually, you're wrong on two points. First: Judo has a large component of "learning techniques tailored to individuals". Tournament players spend large amounts of time finding, drilling and refining a small number of special techniques that they can eventually pull off foward, back, upside down and in their sleep.

Second: linear progression is not a bad thing if it is in parallel to developing your own game, rather than instead. If students are not systematically exposed to, and forced to learn, the entire curriculum - who is supposed to be the coach who helps the next generation of competitors pick and learn the small number of techniques suited to them?