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    ELLL OH EL ON THIS TO ANYONE WHO HAS SEEN ME

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    You beat me to a response. LOL definitely.
    The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function.
    ~F. Scott Fitzgerald

    Whether it is a good thing or a bad thing, smashing things up is sometimes very pleasant.
    ~Fyodor Dostoyevsky

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    Heh. I thought you said "Goatherd"

    I was thinking you deserve style points for archaic dozens.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyCache
    1) Criticize asian martial arts
    2) Nuthug western martial arts only three people still practice
    3) Talk about how cool it would be if a (giant/female/pcp addled) practitioner of same crashed a AMA dojo
    4) Make sure the post asks no questions and presents no information.
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    6) Profit
    LOL

    Does this mean we could now produce an Angry_Spastic-bot to post on his behalf (directly to Trollshido)?

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    Damn. . .
    I thought this thread was about progressive training methodology. .
    Instead, it's about nothing.
    And, getting worse.
    Hmm. . .
    I guess that's a linear progression.

    `~/

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    Not all Asian martial arts, or at least not all schools have a linear training scheme. I don't think mine has one at all. At least we don't have belts or sashes or anything... you just progress at your own pace.

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    I think thats a feature of TCMA -- no belts, sashes, etc. Just time put in.

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    The best way to judge someone is from their skill. Have a go sparr with them and usually you can get an idea of their level. Belts/sashes mean nothing, really.
    An 8 year old can get a TKD black belt. Does that mean he/she could own a 200lb rugged US Navy SEAL in a 1 on 1 fight? I think not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angry_Spastic
    One of the things that concerns me about learning judo or jujitsu or SPM (apart from whoring myself) is that they practise a linear standard of progression.

    Asian MA = perform rote techniques to satisfactory standard, get belt, proceed
    Sport MA (boxing and wrestling) = learn techniques tailored to individual, win bouts, proceed

    Ethnic MA practised outside Asia:

    If sport- see "Sport MA" reference.
    If for T3H B4TTLEF13LD- learn techniques tailored to individual, don't get killed or crippled, return, practise refine and add techniques and so on.

    :tongue3:
    What do you mean by "ethnic MA outside of Asia"? The only popular "ethnic" , non-Asian MA that I know of is either Capoeira or wrestling, if you want to count Egypt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angry_Spastic
    One of the things that concerns me about learning judo or jujitsu or SPM (apart from whoring myself) is that they practise a linear standard of progression.

    Asian MA = perform rote techniques to satisfactory standard, get belt, proceed
    Sport MA (boxing and wrestling) = learn techniques tailored to individual, win bouts, proceed
    Actually, you're wrong on two points. First: Judo has a large component of "learning techniques tailored to individuals". Tournament players spend large amounts of time finding, drilling and refining a small number of special techniques that they can eventually pull off foward, back, upside down and in their sleep.

    Second: linear progression is not a bad thing if it is in parallel to developing your own game, rather than instead. If students are not systematically exposed to, and forced to learn, the entire curriculum - who is supposed to be the coach who helps the next generation of competitors pick and learn the small number of techniques suited to them?
    There are no wrong threats, only wrong answers. (Strategy game truism)

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