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  1. beer is offline

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    Posted On:
    12/27/2005 6:56am

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    Jan de Jong

    Has anyone ever heard of or trained at Jan de Jong (www.jandejong.com.au) in Perth?

    They teach some style of Ju Jutsu. I have tried a couple of classes of shoot and BJJ which I enjoyed however they were too far from where I live to do regularly. I want to do something that I can mix in with strking skills from boxing so some form of submission seems the way to go.

    I did a free class at Jan de Jong which was mostly stand up submission... block an attackers punch, take them to ground and apply a wrist or shoulder lock. It seemed ok but I as suspicious of actually using a double hand block to setup up a submission on someone with real striking skills.

    From talking with the trainers (senseis) they do seem quite realistic in what they can and cant do. What does leaving me wondering is that they claim to be a self defence school, however they were gi's, belts and bare feet. Why wear this when a self defence situation will likely involve normal clothing and wearing shoes?

    Input appreciated, I dont want to waste anytime with another Bullshido.

    Cheers,
    beers.
    Last edited by beer; 12/27/2005 7:14am at . Reason: Additional information
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    12/27/2005 7:55am


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    I never went to any of his seminars, but I remember seeing posters of him around the place. In it he was depicted using escrima sticks in an ice-pick grip.

    I couldn't help but laugh at how BS that was.
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    Posted On:
    12/27/2005 7:57am


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    Sounds like "normal" JJJ to me. I train at a similiar school (different organisation) right now (mainly because they do a bit of ne waza, and some friends train there). It's not bad, but it is not quite the same as MMA or cross-training. I'd take up judo instead if I were you. I'm going to....

    The point with wearing gi is that they are doing ju jutsu after all, not RBSD.

    EDIT: Definitly go for the Judo. The prices seem high as hell, hell, I pay half of their monthly fee for half a year of training. Oh, and their women's self defense pictures seem weird as hell.
    Last edited by Mosquito; 12/27/2005 8:00am at .
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    Posted On:
    12/27/2005 11:08am

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    I've heard that Jan De Jong (the man, not the school) was actually quite skilled and knew what he was doing. How much of that carried over to the school I don't know. You might want to look for a nearby judo school, it'll be a lot cheaper.

    I'm surprised there's no BJJ schools near you, they seem to be popping up all over the place in Perth lately.
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    12/27/2005 11:04pm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halogen
    I'm surprised there's no BJJ schools near you, they seem to be popping up all over the place in Perth lately.
    There's Academy of Mixed Martial Arts (www.mixedmartialarts.com.au) which teach Machado BJJ by a brown belt which is about 30 mins drive away however there prices are steep aswell.
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    12/28/2005 1:17am


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    My mate goes to that jujitsu place. It is acutally quite good, I've sparred with him a bit and he does know quite alot. However I'm not sure if that has to do with his 3 years training here or 6 years in sweden.

    Either way, I watched their demo and it was pretty good. that Academy place looks really good. I'm planning on starting up there soon hopefully. Mainly because it has the casual classes option, which is what I need because I'm only going to be in Perth 1 out of every 3 weeks next year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beer
    There's Academy of Mixed Martial Arts (www.mixedmartialarts.com.au) which teach Machado BJJ by a brown belt which is about 30 mins drive away however there prices are steep aswell.
    There's a few more than just the Academy.

    http://www.davesbjj.com/forum/viewtopic.php3?t=1570

    That page has a list of bjj clubs in Perth, scattered around the place.
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    Man, why do they all have to be so far away! I'm near Hillarys...These places are all in bloody vic park, cannington, bunbury.....Looks like I'm sticking with The Academy. Halogen, where do you train?
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    Quote Originally Posted by srichards
    . Halogen, where do you train?
    At the moment I'm doing some fairly informal classes once a week with an old instructor of mine at this tiny little gym in northbridge. I'm thinking of picking up kickboxing at a place in freo in the new year since I don't get to do much sparring at the moment.
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    12/28/2005 6:48pm


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