Backyard Wing Chun

**Cullion** · Posted On: 12/07/2005 2:47pm

Originally Posted by The MMA kid!

the guy looked like he knew his wing chun.

Why do you think that ? What kind of WC experience do you have ?

**broken fingers** · Posted On: 12/07/2005 3:00pm

zero,

other than all the crazy videos that i have seen on wing chun here.

compared to all those vids, this one doesn't seem so bad.

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plus, the guy is asian and with a heavy accent, you can't go wrong with that.

**Cullion** · Posted On: 12/07/2005 3:04pm

Originally Posted by The MMA kid!

plus, the guy is asian and with a heavy accent, you can't go wrong with that.

Good point.

**Tabogganwheel** · Posted On: 12/07/2005 7:25pm

He looked pretty crappy to me. All the soft backfist stuff couldn't really hut anyone.
And that fat guy was funny, but was a horrible guy to demonstrate on.
His punches were like, aimed to miss.
The demonstration was bad, the Wing Chun was mediocre, the scenery and camera man sucked. Another crappy video that does not promote WCK very well...

If he wanted to really demonstrate it, it should have been with a guy who was more sceptical and not such an ass kisser, and instead of being "if you do this, I'll do this..." it would have been more "come get me and I'll show you.

As for you guys who say WC training is ***** and doesn't include enough sparring, I'm wondering how I get so many bloody lips and nose, bruises and managed to make a hole with my back in the wall...

**broken fingers** · Posted On: 12/07/2005 8:26pm

the chubby guy's immense nutriding does make it look extra bullshido tho.

**Poop Loops** · Posted On: 12/07/2005 9:05pm

Originally Posted by RogueSamurai

Another video with the same guys

And here are the............ Outtakes..oh dear.

Same clip twice...

**Kamon Guy** · Posted On: 12/08/2005 2:28am

Originally Posted by Cullion

When I did Wing Chun I thought there what seemed like good ideas in it, but we hardly ever sparred.

The people I met who I thought could fight had all done something else first, like boxing or kickboxing, with the exception of one guy who'd just been in a lot of brawls.

I still think the system might be a useful 'add on' for people who've already learned to fight with something more mainstream first.

The trouble with sparring is that it sparring is designed for the ring. Wing chun was developed for explosive, dangerous combat. You can adapt the wing chun for matches but most people say that it deforms the art.

The best way is to learn wing chun first and then other arts. As an instructor, I have seen aikido guys, karate guys, boxers, etc, come in and struggle with the art. Whereas, when I started boxing I took to it well because wing chun had loosened me up.

**chaosexmachina** · Posted On: 12/08/2005 2:49am

**I aint punchy!?** · Posted On: 12/08/2005 4:19am

Originally Posted by RogueSamurai

Another video with the same guys

And here are the............ Outtakes..oh dear.

Just as bad as the first one. Simple stuff against a compliant guy who is easily amazed.

**I aint punchy!?** · Posted On: 12/08/2005 4:22am

Originally Posted by Kamon Guy

The trouble with sparring is that it sparring is designed for the ring. Wing chun was developed for explosive, dangerous combat. You can adapt the wing chun for matches but most people say that it deforms the art.

The best way is to learn wing chun first and then other arts. As an instructor, I have seen aikido guys, karate guys, boxers, etc, come in and struggle with the art. Whereas, when I started boxing I took to it well because wing chun had loosened me up.

If you are doing Wing Chun without sparring you are completely missing the point. Its basically a kind of short-fist boxing. Learning forms, doing drills, etc is a great way to come out of X years of martial arts without any fighting skill.

I suggest you develop a number of different sparring formats and apply these to WC. And make at least 1/2 of your training time sparring for gods sakes.