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  1. Cullion is offline
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    Everybody was Kung Fu fighting

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    Quote Originally Posted by The MMA kid!
    the guy looked like he knew his wing chun.
    Why do you think that ? What kind of WC experience do you have ?
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    zero,

    other than all the crazy videos that i have seen on wing chun here.

    compared to all those vids, this one doesn't seem so bad.

    .......

    plus, the guy is asian and with a heavy accent, you can't go wrong with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The MMA kid!
    plus, the guy is asian and with a heavy accent, you can't go wrong with that.
    Good point.
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    He looked pretty crappy to me. All the soft backfist stuff couldn't really hut anyone.
    And that fat guy was funny, but was a horrible guy to demonstrate on.
    His punches were like, aimed to miss.
    The demonstration was bad, the Wing Chun was mediocre, the scenery and camera man sucked. Another crappy video that does not promote WCK very well...

    If he wanted to really demonstrate it, it should have been with a guy who was more sceptical and not such an ass kisser, and instead of being "if you do this, I'll do this..." it would have been more "come get me and I'll show you.

    As for you guys who say WC training is ***** and doesn't include enough sparring, I'm wondering how I get so many bloody lips and nose, bruises and managed to make a hole with my back in the wall...
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    the chubby guy's immense nutriding does make it look extra bullshido tho.
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by RogueSamurai
    Another video with the same guys

    And here are the............ Outtakes..oh dear.
    Same clip twice...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cullion
    When I did Wing Chun I thought there what seemed like good ideas in it, but we hardly ever sparred.

    The people I met who I thought could fight had all done something else first, like boxing or kickboxing, with the exception of one guy who'd just been in a lot of brawls.

    I still think the system might be a useful 'add on' for people who've already learned to fight with something more mainstream first.
    The trouble with sparring is that it sparring is designed for the ring. Wing chun was developed for explosive, dangerous combat. You can adapt the wing chun for matches but most people say that it deforms the art.

    The best way is to learn wing chun first and then other arts. As an instructor, I have seen aikido guys, karate guys, boxers, etc, come in and struggle with the art. Whereas, when I started boxing I took to it well because wing chun had loosened me up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RogueSamurai
    Another video with the same guys

    And here are the............ Outtakes..oh dear.
    Just as bad as the first one. Simple stuff against a compliant guy who is easily amazed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamon Guy
    The trouble with sparring is that it sparring is designed for the ring. Wing chun was developed for explosive, dangerous combat. You can adapt the wing chun for matches but most people say that it deforms the art.

    The best way is to learn wing chun first and then other arts. As an instructor, I have seen aikido guys, karate guys, boxers, etc, come in and struggle with the art. Whereas, when I started boxing I took to it well because wing chun had loosened me up.
    If you are doing Wing Chun without sparring you are completely missing the point. Its basically a kind of short-fist boxing. Learning forms, doing drills, etc is a great way to come out of X years of martial arts without any fighting skill.

    I suggest you develop a number of different sparring formats and apply these to WC. And make at least 1/2 of your training time sparring for gods sakes.
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