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  1. Gezere is offline
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    RANKED!?!?!

    Ok so can someone tell me how the RANKED thing works?

    Since I am still relatively new to competeing stateside so maybe someone enlighten me. So far I have done two NAGA events but I got an email from one saying I was RANKED but not one for this one. So exactly whats going on?
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    I assume you mean MMA.TV rankings. I think I see your name on the list. No idea how it works, but I am sure it says it somewhere on here...

    http://www.mma.tv/RANKED/index.cfm?a...=2005&state=GA
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by RANKED
    Point totals For 2005: 64.05
    National / NO-GI RANKED #608
    The West / NO-GI RANKED #72
    State: CA / NO-GI RANKED #58
    Wow, I feel special.... Post up your ranks!
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    This Grapplers Quest's system, its probably similar to NAGA's.

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    Points Formula
    The RATED points formula is based on the three important factors:

    1. The place you finished (1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th)
    2. The division level Novice, Beginner, Intermediate or Advanced
    3. The overall Size of the Event and Competitor Draw
    NOTE: Historically Grapplers Quest events are 5-STAR RATED events, meaning that is these events earn competitors the maximum amount of points in the RATED circuit.


    http://www.grapplingratings.com/
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    Posted On:
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    It doesn't really tell you much other than who has the money to go and compete at all the events.

    I didn't see Sean Spangler, 7 year GQ champion in many divisions including expert most years. Or any of the real bad asses for that matter. IMHO that is grapplings version of the sport karate ranking system popular in the 80's where the guy who could compete at the most tournaments had the most points.
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    Check out this: Marissa Talley #1 rated grappler

    Event Name: 4th Annual Music City Grappling Championships
    Division: Teen's Advanced No-Gi Welterweight (115–134.9 lbs.)
    Place: 3rd Place - 12 Points

    Division: Women's Advanced No-Gi Class B (120 - 134.9 lbs.)
    Place: 1st Place - 50 Points

    Division: Women's Advanced No-Gi Class C (135 – 149.9 lbs.)
    Place: 1st Place - 50 Points

    Division: Women's Advanced No-Gi Class D (150 lbs. and over)
    Place: 2nd Place - 25 Points

    Division: Women's Advanced No-Gi Absolute
    Place: 1st Place - 75 Points

    Division: Women’s BJJ Blue Belt Absolute
    Place: 1st Place - 200 Points

    Division: Women’s BJJ Blue Belt Lightweight (122-134 lbs.)
    Place: 1st Place - 100 Points

    Division: Women’s BJJ Blue Belt Middleweight (135-145 lbs.)
    Place: 1st Place - 100 Points

    Division: Teen's Advanced BJJ Welterweight (115–129.9 lbs.)
    Place: 4th Place - 6 Points


    She fought in 8 categories in this 1 event. Im not questioning her skills but this going to skew any ranking system. Almost makes the BCS look like a well designed system.
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    12/07/2005 1:24pm


     Style: MT (no, not "empty")

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    Compare to Jeff Monson, one of the bigger pro names on the circuit

    Event Name: Grapplers Quest World Series of Grappling
    Division: Men's No-Gi Absolute
    Place: 1st Place - 900 Points

    Event Name: Pan American Games of Submission Grappling
    Division: Advanced Men's No-Gi Superweight (210 lbs. and over)
    Place: 1st Place - 400 Points

    Division: Men's No-Gi Absolute
    Place: 1st Place - 500 Points

    Event Name: 6th Grapplers Quest West Coast Submission Grappling Championships
    Division: Advanced Men's No-Gi Superweight (210 lbs. and over)
    Place: 1st Place - 800 Points

    Event Name: Grapplers Quest West VII Grappling Championships
    Division: Men's No-Gi Absolute
    Place: 1st Place - 1000 Points

    Event Name: World Grappling Games Best in the West
    Division: Advanced Men's No-Gi Superweight (210 lbs. and over)
    Place: 1st Place - 400 Points

    Division: Men's No-Gi Absolute
    Place: 1st Place - 500 Points

    Event Name: Grapplers Quest Southeast Submission Grappling Championships
    Division: Men's No-Gi Absolute
    Place: 1st Place - 1200 Points

    Event Name: Copa Atlantica Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Championships
    Division: BJJ Men's Black Belt (over 175 lbs.)
    Place: 3rd Place - 375 Points

    Event Name: North Western Regionals of Grappling and BJJ
    Division: Advanced Men's No-Gi Superweight (210 lbs. and over)
    Place: 1st Place - 400 Points

    Division: Men's No-Gi Absolute
    Place: 1st Place - 500 Points


    Monson has 5275 pts compared to Talleys 12064. Of course, Monson could give a **** about rankings since he's a pro & all about the benjamins.

    So, is there a point to this? Not really, i think must people can figure out the RATED/RANKED systems are basically just a selling point for GQ/NAGA to promote the sport and get people (i.e. kids) to participate in their competitions.
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    Posted On:
    12/07/2005 3:27pm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yrkoon9
    It doesn't really tell you much other than who has the money to go and compete at all the events.

    I didn't see Sean Spangler, 7 year GQ champion in many divisions including expert most years. Or any of the real bad asses for that matter. IMHO that is grapplings version of the sport karate ranking system popular in the 80's where the guy who could compete at the most tournaments had the most points.
    I wish rankings were based on the ELO system in every sport (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELO_rating_system). This is far and away the most fair way of ranking someone. Sure someone with more bouts has the opportunity to be rated higher, but unless they fight competition that is ranked higher than them in most of those bouts its likely that they will stay average. You could even make some trivial changes to it for Jiu-jitsu so that if you submit someone you get more points than if you take it to a decision.
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    Posted On:
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    WIKI has nothing on ELO.
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    Try removing the end-parenthesis from the link.

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