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  1. Moleculo is offline
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    ATTENTION DATE RAPISTS!

    You may be innocent by reason of being sleepy.

    I wonder if this defense could be used for giving someone a beatdown as well...


    TORONTO (Reuters) - The Canadian province of Ontario plans to review a court decision that acquitted a man of sexual assault charges because he suffers from "sexsomnia" and was asleep at the time of the incident.

    The Office of the Attorney General, which oversees the province's prosecutions, said on Thursday it needs to research its options for an appeal because of the strange circumstances of the case.

    "This matter will be carefully considered to determine our next steps," said Brendan Crawley, a spokesman for the Attorney General.

    Jan Luedecke, 33, was acquitted of sexual assault charges on Tuesday because he said he was asleep during the attack.

    A sleep expert testified that Luedecke suffers from a disorder that causes sexsomnia -- involuntary sexual behavior during sleep -- which he had experienced before.

    The court heard that Luedecke and the female victim met at a party. She testified she fell asleep and woke up to find Luedecke having sex with her. She pushed him away and called the police.

    Luedecke confessed to police after he discovered was still wearing a condom and realized he had had sex.

    Canadian media reported that the victim left the courtroom in tears when the verdict was read, and said she would take the case to the highest court possible.

    The Crown has 30 days to present its appeal.
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    As a psychology major with a particular love of the behavioral sciences, I am very happy courts seem to be taking into account mental disorders when determining responsibility. It's about time people realize that mental disorders are real problems.
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    The professionals who will be the most pleased are going to be criminal defense lawyers.
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    It's a good thing that his "disorder" had the afforethought to open and roll on a condom.

    BTW, why should one's mental state relieve them of responsibility for a crime?
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    There was a similar one in the UK whereby a bloke was freed entirely after battering his own father to death because his defence said he was sleepwalking. They did some 'tests' regarding this sleepwalking and, after confirming he did indeed sleepwalk occasionally, totally freed the guy saying 'he'd suffered enough'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akurra
    As a psychology major with a particular love of the behavioral sciences, I am very happy courts seem to be taking into account mental disorders when determining responsibility. It's about time people realize that mental disorders are real problems.
    I hope that's sarcasm...
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    Why do you hope that's sarcasm Xiangfei? Or should we just instantly execute anyone who has ever been mentally ill in their life?
    More human than human is our motto.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiangfei
    I hope that's sarcasm...
    In essence what your saying is that the conclusion you, a layman, draw five minutes after reading a one paragraph article is far superior to one made by experts who have spent there lives studying mental problems and have made extensive study of the subject in question. God bless the internet.

    No we shouldn’t excuse anyone with a mental problem, only those who where forced into involuntary action by there own biology.
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    sounds like utter bullshit to me. I mean the guy put a fucking condom on. does he have 'sleep condomitis' as well?
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