12/03/2005 1:52pm, #31
It's not GnP it's the cage. Watch more Pride.
12/03/2005 1:56pm, #32Originally Posted by bwerb
I don't like it when they "reset" a fight if it gets interrupted for any reason, though. The fighters should always go back to the same position they were in at the time the fight was paused.
On the topic of letting fighters fight . . . I am pulled two ways here. I would love for referees to never have to stand fighters up, but some guys would get in there and lay and pray. It happened in the old UFC and would happen again, most likely. White has done a good job of making it clear that he doesn't want lay'n'prayers anymore, but it would still happen.
I think a better system would be to hit the fighters financially, like Pride does. As much as I hate the idea of paying fighters less, this method seems to work fairly well. Blatant disgusting stalling? Bam, yellow card. There went 10% of your money."No. Listen to me because I know what I'm talking about here." -- Hannibal
12/03/2005 5:08pm, #33Originally Posted by WhiteShark
ALSO...I'm not sure how long it will be, but there will be a time when nearly ALL fighters are equally high skilled in every situation.
I don't think 20 years don't the road you will SEE lay n pray because if you **** up just a TINCY bit in someones gaurd you'll be fucked.
12/03/2005 5:13pm, #34
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The only fighter I can think of who openly admits to forgoing submissions in order to smash your face in is Tito Ortiz. Ironically, nowadays he doesn't even do that; his current style is pure Lay & Pray, so he's the one more likely to be stood up, not so much the man on the bottom.
12/03/2005 6:23pm, #35
I figured a lot of the GNP'ing was due to
1) (as someone already mentioned) higher probability of success, ie punch someone in the face vs. armbar
and 2) softening someone up to apply the submission in an easier fashion, ie taking the back mount and punch them in the jaw several times before tying up for the RNC"Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration." -A. Lincoln
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