Irish Bare-Knuckle Boxing

**Mr. Miaggi** · Posted On: 12/02/2005 3:52pm

Looks like another Matt Fury Scam. Please excuse me if this has already been discussed, but is this a legit fighting system or just another rip off ?
http://www.irishbareknuckleboxing.com/

MM

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**PEtrainer** · Posted On: 12/02/2005 3:56pm

Yes it was posted before.

But we all admit that Irish Bare knuckle boxing is also the most superior fighting art, next to being a ninja or Samuari.

**Mr. Miaggi** · Posted On: 12/02/2005 4:03pm

Fantastic, I will now go back to washing dishes in "Arnolds" kitchen on Happy Days.

**Cullion** · Posted On: 12/02/2005 5:02pm

Of course it's a scam. My mother is Irish. I have uncles on that side of the familly who boxed. It was just like anybody else's boxing, just done by short red-headed guys with big ears.

There is no magic irish streetfighting technique. Just pissed off irish blokes who've been in a lot of fights.

**Zendetta** · Posted On: 12/02/2005 5:05pm

Irish boxing is like regular boxing, only Shorter and Drunker.

**Cullion** · Posted On: 12/02/2005 5:37pm

From the site:-

# How to make someone's eyes water so he can't defend against or see your next devastating blow!

In ancient ireland this was called hit'imonthefuckin'nosetobesuretobesure

I will try and demonstrate this technique at the Oxford throwdown, but I will need a totally compliant Uke and £500.

**Lane** · Posted On: 12/02/2005 10:46pm

I'll reveal the secret method!

1. Down a pint.

2. Down a glass of whiskey.

3. Kiss your girl.

4. Cross yourself.

5. Punch the wanker.

**DdlR** · Posted On: 12/02/2005 10:52pm

Irish "tinkers", a.k.a. travelling folk and a lot of less-polite names, have their own long-standing tradition of bare-knuckle fighting. The best reference book I know of on that subject is Bartley Gorman's autobiography, "King of the Gypsies", which is available through Amazon.com and other retailers - there's also a fair bit about Gorman online, so try a Google search if you're interested.

The Irish bare-knuckle "style" does date back a long time, at least to the mid-late 19th century when bare-knuckle boxing was at it's prime. At that stage, the sport definitely did include different techniques and tactics to modern boxing, including low kicks, grappling and throwing techniques, some elbow and forearm strikes, etc. However, AFAIK there has never been a formal school of Irish boxing; the skills are passed on organically as a combination of regular gym training and "tricks" picked up by more experienced fighters.

So, while it's possible that some vestiges of the real old-school BKB fighting remain in the Irish style, it would be very hard to identify them or separate them from the innovations and discoveries of generations of fighters since the 1800s, bearing in mind that the rules of the tinkers' BKB are only loosely based on those of the more accepted codes.

As far as the Fury DVD goes, I haven't seen it and don't plan to buy it, but I suppose it's possible that a modern BKB fighter has put together a self defense system based on traditional, or at least still-practiced, Irish BKB.

**DdlR** · Posted On: 12/03/2005 6:18am

A few scanned pix of techniques from old school (1800s) BKB - note that any resemblance between these moves and those shown in the DVD may be co-incidental ...

**Shinkengata** · Posted On: 12/03/2005 6:25am

Sounds like this asshole's been watching too much Gangs Of New York

What kills me is that these guys remember in almost photographic detail what happens in the fights they are in. I always found it hard as hell to remember much after a fight.

"His face went one way while his nose took a detour towards his right ear"

Lying sack of ****....